Your above is a strawman.Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:42 amThis is laughable. You either don't understand or ignore any refutation of your argument. But hey, try these two again.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:39 amWhere?Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:12 am
And I have refuted your argument that what we call facts are illusions. So you cannot use that argument at all, let alone to defend your strange claim that there are moral facts.
If you think so, it is likely to be half-cooked.
You ignored all the points I raised in my above posts.
Being so particular with the matter, I would not have left it half-hanged.
If I had conceded I would have admitted it.
1 Why ought we to oppose evil and promote goodness, (as you define them)?
Suggestion: write down your reason(s) as simply and clearly as you can.
For example: 'We ought not to do evil (act to the net detriment to the individual and society) because...' Now, go on.
2 You agree that non-moral premises can't entail moral conclusions. But all your arguments for moral objectivity have non-moral premises. If you disagree, show us that I'm wrong. Go on.
I have never agreed that moral principles are to be commanded as 'ought' i.e. modal verbs which arise from subject[s] opinions, beliefs and judgments of rightness or wrongness.
This is where I agree with Hume's there cannot be any "ought" from "is".
If you can recall [..I have posted in many posts and threads], I have argued there are 'ought-not-ness' or 'ought-ness' as nouns [biological facts] represented by its physical neural correlates that enable moral facts within a human-based moral FSK.
Although not mentioned by Hume, the moral 'ought-not-ness' or 'ought-ness' are implied within Hume's morality.
Also I have never focused on promoting goodness per se but rather once 'evilness' [as defined] is managed, reduced or eliminated, its related goods will manifest. All these are subject to its degrees within degrees of objectivity.
I will collate all my earlier posts and present them here; that will take some time.