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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:58 pm
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I'm probably making a mess, but I just pointed out how limited your ontology is. Adopting the nondual philosophical framework with its 'awakening' can take a few years, adopting the extradimensional philosophical framework can take a while too. Looks like you've done neither.
But, in fairness, the thread title is about the person.Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 pm What's really telling here isn't anything i've said but the fact that others seem incapable of talking about the ideas instead of the person who said them. Talk about the attributes of legitimacy. Talk about ownership. Talk about the attributes of the best philosophy. If you're not addressing those points you have nothing to say about the me at the bottom of the well.
Precisely. And not only that but it places that person in a role in relation to other people, including everyone here being addressed and implicit evaluated and posited as owned. And these patterns continue through the thread including the post above this one.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:35 pmBut, in fairness, the thread title is about the person.Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:34 pm What's really telling here isn't anything i've said but the fact that others seem incapable of talking about the ideas instead of the person who said them. Talk about the attributes of legitimacy. Talk about ownership. Talk about the attributes of the best philosophy. If you're not addressing those points you have nothing to say about the me at the bottom of the well.
Well since FDP pointed out this funny one:
How does that make sense? Science is rigor.Science is rigor, or the body of knowledge thereby achieved.
You can know this to be true because starting with only the first three words, one could recreate everything else that science is today.
As long as humanity exists or isn't at least heavily genetically modified, the most ownership goes to the people with the most power. It has basically nothing to do with doing the best things.Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:31 pm •I am the legitimate owner of the universe.
•Ownership is certainty of access and control and legitimate/ethical, legal, and actual ownership must be understood separately.
•The legitimate owner of the universe is the best philosopher. (..who is most likely to do the best things with it if their ownership was actual.)
•The best philosopher is whoever has the best philosophy.
•A philosophy is a coherent set of answers/solutions to a set of philosophical questions/problems.
•A philosophy must be internally coherent to be rational and externally coherent to be useful.
•There are three distinctive areas of philosophy, each with its own tools and aims; Truth Wisdom is the most universal answers to the most universally important questions, Practical Wisdom is custom answers to individual problems, and Academic Philosophy <spit> is about social acceptance as proven by credentials earned primarily through compliance - neither meaningful answers or solutions are required. My scope is Truth Wisdom.
•Within this scope, i can meet the following criteria;
a) cohesive, coherent, conclusive
b) expressible in ordinary language
c) compatible with scientific consensus
d) no gaps, special pleading, appeal to authority, or woo
•Any philosophy that can meet this list of criteria is at minimum better than most.
•My philosophy can easily meet all of those criteria, which none other can, and is therefore the best philosophy, making me the best philosopher therefore the legitimate owner of the universe.
And WHO are 'the people' who 'you' think or BELIEVE are 'the ones' WITH the 'most power' "atla"?Atla wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:00 amAs long as humanity exists or isn't at least heavily genetically modified, the most ownership goes to the people with the most power.Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:31 pm •I am the legitimate owner of the universe.
•Ownership is certainty of access and control and legitimate/ethical, legal, and actual ownership must be understood separately.
•The legitimate owner of the universe is the best philosopher. (..who is most likely to do the best things with it if their ownership was actual.)
•The best philosopher is whoever has the best philosophy.
•A philosophy is a coherent set of answers/solutions to a set of philosophical questions/problems.
•A philosophy must be internally coherent to be rational and externally coherent to be useful.
•There are three distinctive areas of philosophy, each with its own tools and aims; Truth Wisdom is the most universal answers to the most universally important questions, Practical Wisdom is custom answers to individual problems, and Academic Philosophy <spit> is about social acceptance as proven by credentials earned primarily through compliance - neither meaningful answers or solutions are required. My scope is Truth Wisdom.
•Within this scope, i can meet the following criteria;
a) cohesive, coherent, conclusive
b) expressible in ordinary language
c) compatible with scientific consensus
d) no gaps, special pleading, appeal to authority, or woo
•Any philosophy that can meet this list of criteria is at minimum better than most.
•My philosophy can easily meet all of those criteria, which none other can, and is therefore the best philosophy, making me the best philosopher therefore the legitimate owner of the universe.
Atla wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:00 am It has basically nothing to do with doing the best things.
Also, one could say that the best philosophy starts with acknowledging the above, so how does one tear down the whole world or at least try to trick it into creating a superior species via gene modification?
I can't give an exact list of names, but the people who hold the most financial, political, military power on the planet.
So, to "atla", 'the people' WITH the 'most power' are the people who HOLD the 'most power'. BUT "atla" WILL NOT give an EXACT LIST, NOR ANY LIST, AT ALL, for that matter.
More sheer idiocy. Just because I don't know exactly who they are, doesn't mean that there aren't hierarchies in place worldwide, with people at the top. You realize that you prove with every comment how completely retarded you are? The Chinese and Russian presidents seem fairly certain though.Age wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:33 amSo, to "atla", 'the people' WITH the 'most power' are the people who HOLD the 'most power'. BUT "atla" WILL NOT give an EXACT LIST, NOR ANY LIST, AT ALL, for that matter.
And, as I HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT and EXPLAINED "atla" WILL NOT give A LIST, thus WILL NOT ANSWER the ACTUAL QUESTION posed, and ASKED, here IS BECAUSE "atla" KNOWS just how STUPID and RIDICULOUS 'it' WILL THEN LOOK, if 'it' even 'TRIED TO'.
Thus, "atla" is here, ONCE MORE, PROVING ABSOLUTELY True MY WORDS and CLAIMS, FOR 'me'.
BUT there is NO ACTUAL 'hierarchies' AMONG 'you', human beings. Unless 'you' are talking ABOUT and referring TO those ONLY 'IMAGINED' ones, OF COURSE.Atla wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:37 amMore sheer idiocy. Just because I don't know exactly who they are, doesn't mean that there aren't hierarchies in place worldwide, with people at the top.Age wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:33 amSo, to "atla", 'the people' WITH the 'most power' are the people who HOLD the 'most power'. BUT "atla" WILL NOT give an EXACT LIST, NOR ANY LIST, AT ALL, for that matter.
And, as I HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT and EXPLAINED "atla" WILL NOT give A LIST, thus WILL NOT ANSWER the ACTUAL QUESTION posed, and ASKED, here IS BECAUSE "atla" KNOWS just how STUPID and RIDICULOUS 'it' WILL THEN LOOK, if 'it' even 'TRIED TO'.
Thus, "atla" is here, ONCE MORE, PROVING ABSOLUTELY True MY WORDS and CLAIMS, FOR 'me'.
YES, I KNOW that WITH ABSOLUTELY EVERY comment I MAKE, 'your' CURRENTLY HELD BELIEF here becomes MORE TRUE, MORE RIGHT, and MORE CORRECT here, for 'you' ALONE.
'you' have ALSO seemed fairly CERTAIN of some 'things', and have 'you' BEEN ABSOLUTELY RIGHT and CORRECT EVERY 'time'?