PH: Are Scientific Conclusions Objective Scientific Facts?

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Veritas Aequitas
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PH: Are Scientific Conclusions Objective Scientific Facts?

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Peter Holmes,
I have asked you many times but you have not given me any definitive answer the question:

Are Scientific Conclusions /Knowledge verified and justified via the scientific Framework and System of Knowledge [FSK] or Reality [FSR] Objective Scientific Facts?

Yes or No?
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Re: PH: Are Scientific Conclusions Objective Scientific Facts?

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What is fact is represented by a conclusion that is arrived upon a specific Framework and System of Knowledge [FSK] or Reality [FSR].

For reference;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
A fact is a datum about one or more aspects of a circumstance, which, if accepted as true and proven true, allows a logical conclusion to be reached on a true–false evaluation. Standard reference works are often used to check facts.
Scientific facts are verified by repeatable careful observation or measurement by experiments or other means.

For example,
1. "This sentence contains words." accurately describes a linguistic fact, and
2. "The sun is a star" accurately describes an astronomical fact. Further,
3. "Abraham Lincoln was the 16th President of the United States" and "Abraham Lincoln was assassinated" both accurately describe historical facts.

Generally speaking, facts are independent of belief and of knowledge and opinion.
Beside the scientific FSK, the examples above denote;
1. The linguistic FSK generates linguistic facts.
2. The Astronomy FSK generates astronomical fact
3. The History FSK generates historical facts.

Obviously the Moral FSK generates Moral facts.

The above facts are subject to the question of credibility.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:18 am generates
"generates", really?
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:18 am Beside the scientific FSK, the examples above denote;
1. The linguistic FSK generates linguistic facts.
2. The Astronomy FSK generates astronomical fact
3. The History FSK generates historical facts.

Obviously the Moral FSK generates Moral facts.

Obviously the Fantasy FSK generates Fantasy facts because people fantasize and have neurons involved.
Obviously the Fiction in novels FSK generates Fiction facts. (if there are many anti-semitic novels, we can generate facts about Jews from them)
Obviously the Schizophrenic worldview FSK generates delusion facts.
Obviously the sports fan FSK generates facts about who should win the finals.
Obviously the Kardarsian FSK generates facts about who in the world is most important objectively.


If humans have some cognitive process and we can show that it's somehow connected to neurons then that process tells us facts about the objective world.

(really?)
The above facts are subject to the question of credibility.
I'll say.
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'fsk' itself is just a made up phrase, and used by "veritas aequitas" alone, as far as I am aware. Re-repeating those phrases are NEVER going to give 'fsk' or 'fsr' ANY credence AT ALL.

And as for any so-called 'moral fsk' why did you NOT provide an example for this so-called 'moral' one, like you did with the other made up phrases of 'linguistic', 'astronomy', or 'history' 'fsk's'?

Look, 'you' are NEVER going to persuade those like "peter holmes" who BELIEVE some 'thing' is true of absolutely ANY 'thing', which opposes what they BELIEVE is true. Just like 'you' can NOT be persuaded of ANY 'thing', which 'you' BELIEVE the opposite of is true "veritas aequitas".

'you' are BOTH the EXACT SAME here.

'you' have BOTH made up and/or provided definitions to words, which makes what 'you' BOTH say IRREFUTABLY true. Although what 'you' BOTH are SAYING here is NOT True, NOT Right, and NOT Correct, I will add.
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