There is no Soul - it’s another Christian mythological belief.

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Harbal wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:33 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:21 am
Harbal, this is serious stuff. I mean, we’re in some for some real philosophy here. So, knock it off.
You think that claiming to be part Injun, when you are (allegedly) not, is serious, yet you consider an acting president of the USA inciting citizens to riot is okay? You are the one who needs to knock it off. :roll:
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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:29 am
Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:47 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:27 am
Good observations. This particular one ... that saying about a good day to die ... it may have even come from a movie, about American aboriginals.

It does sound romantic though, doesn't it. Rather, New Agey.


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I would say the rest of his post in New Agey. I don't think most New Agers quite have the spirit of 'It's a good day to die.' Especially in the before battle sense it was originally used, but even in the more ordinary sense.
But in the way New Age mixes and matches (and ignores) things from a bunch of traditions and end up being a kind of inward facing virtue signaling Without real committment, sure.
Your reply reminds me of Fauxcahontous*.

* Elizabeth Warren, high-profile woman politician who said she has the "Native American," blood, but she does not.
Like his writing (or my reply) is like Elizabeth Warren?
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The observation that the soul does not exist can also be the result of a simple rational reasoning.

However, one may or may not be aware of the implications of the nonexistence of the soul.

Acquiring this awareness is the most difficult step.
Because I am my own soul.

Therefore if the soul is not there I am nothing.
There is a body, a brain, thoughts, sensations ... but I am not there.
I am an illusion, perhaps necessary, but basically I am nothing.

If I can stand on the edge of the abyss of my nonexistence, then I can truly be gone.

There is no need for my body to die if my soul dies.
And it dies realizing that it is nothing.

But when the soul dies the world becomes bright.
Everything is precious and lovable, Transcendence shines through in it.
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bobmax wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:55 pm
If I can stand on the edge of the abyss of my nonexistence,
Don't look down, man, don't look down. :shock:
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Harbal wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:00 pm
bobmax wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:55 pm
If I can stand on the edge of the abyss of my nonexistence,
Don't look down, man, don't look down. :shock:
But sooner or later it must.
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bobmax wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:55 pm The observation that the soul does not exist can also be the result of a simple rational reasoning.

However, one may or may not be aware of the implications of the nonexistence of the soul.

Acquiring this awareness is the most difficult step.
Because I am my own soul.

Therefore if the soul is not there I am nothing.
Existence seems to continue for everything from viruses to slugs to Redwoods regardless of the absence of a soul.
andyou believing in one just not make a jot of difference.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:27 pmLike his writing (or my reply) is like Elizabeth Warren?
That's an interesting take that I didn't consider. No to that. I have a broader view of the world. Perhaps that's why folks just can't understand what I write.

It's in the sense that Warren used her fantasy pedigree as a form of virtue signaling. She got to check the “minority box,” and get that special consideration for being a minority. She liked being a feather in diversity's cap. Or as she likely would say, diversity's headdress.

She got to be the “diverse,” in a diverse faculty, and she made her (fantasy) roots known to get the vote from the oppressed tribes of Massachusetts, and from those white liberals who are not her blood brothers but are instead, filled with white guilt over treatment of the aboriginals.

It’s a type of virtue signaling. Victim signaling. It's a notch up from pandering by faking a Southern accent when campaigning for political office in the South, which is what panderers such as the one and only Obama, and that cupcake Clinton, would do. Come to think of it, cursing around cursers is also a form of pandering, like effecting a Southern accent ... but I digress.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:05 pm Existence seems to continue for everything from viruses to slugs to Redwoods regardless of the absence of a soul.
andyou believing in one just not make a jot of difference.
But is not everything that exists itself a nothing?
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:05 pm
Existence seems to continue for everything from viruses to slugs to Redwoods regardless of the absence of a soul.
andyou believing in one just not make a jot of difference.
I can't imagine why anyone ever came up with the idea of a soul. What is it meant to account for? I mean, what on eath could the sentence that ended in, "therefore there must be a soul?", have been?
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bobmax wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:09 pm
But is not everything that exists itself a nothing?
I've changed my mind, bob, jump.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:07 pm Perhaps that's why folks just can't understand what I write.
I think it's more that they can't understand why you write it. :roll:
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:36 am
Harbal wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:33 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:21 am
Harbal, this is serious stuff. I mean, we’re in some for some real philosophy here. So, knock it off.
You think that claiming to be part Injun, when you are (allegedly) not, is serious, yet you consider an acting president of the USA inciting citizens to riot is okay? You are the one who needs to knock it off. :roll:
:lol:
I don't understand. Perhaps your monkey chorus could explain. I know it's not worth it to you to explain.

The objective record shows that Trump in fact, did not incite a riot. This is why no one is allowed to speak for Trump in these hearings. They don't want the objective record, included in their subjective record.

You have let fantasy cloud your vision, Harbal. The shallow water is murky. That's where the herd slosh when they drink.

You have drunk, the koolade. (sp?)It's understandable, considering.

You need to think more critically if you want to look deeper into the situation, oh swami river.

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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:20 pm

The objective record shows that Trump in fact, did not incite a riot.

(I've heard I'm unintelligible, so speak up if you don't understand.)
The words he spoke encouraging his supporters to take action were broadcast both before and after the event, I heard them myself on the news. To deny it is ludicrous. I don't expect he anticipated they would go as far as they did, but he definitely encited them. He reacted to losing the election like a child having its ball taken away.
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bobmax wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:09 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:05 pm Existence seems to continue for everything from viruses to slugs to Redwoods regardless of the absence of a soul.
andyou believing in one just not make a jot of difference.
But is not everything that exists itself a nothing?

Yes, black is white and white is black - next time you cross the road take care on the zebra crossing.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:20 pm

The objective record shows that Trump in fact, did not incite a riot.
:lol: :lol:
The whole world watched Trump incite a fucking riot.
The only ones that missed it had their heads up their own arses.
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