Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:41 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:45 pm
I know that beauty is in eyes of the beholder. But I was wondering how we realize something as beautiful or ugly. To me, that is the duty of the subconscious mind to provide a sense of beauty or ugly with the subject of our experience. The reality is that there are all just forms that we experience and non of them is either beautiful or ugly.
Because of subject/object duality of mind, and because of physical bilateral symmetry, beauty of form and face is inherently recognized on a scale of symmetry, and this not dependent upon cultural interpretation or training. A perfectly symmetrical face and body is beautiful to anyone in any culture, although expressions are sometimes culturally dependent.
Is there such a thing as a 'perfectly symmetrical face and/or body'?
If yes, then will you provide us with an example, or a pic?
If you do not, then why not?
And, what happens if a so-called 'ugly face, or ugly body', was so-called 'perfectly symmetrical'?
Also, WHY would some 'thing' made up of exactly similar parts facing each other or around an axis NECESSARY make that 'thing' 'beautiful'?
Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:41 pm
Beautiful behavior is recognized as appropriateness, which is culturally dependent but also linked to the body’s inherent sense of symmetry, proportion, balance, and the economy of both mind and body motion. Physical proportions can be mathmatically measured and symmetry of form follows certain guidelines of proportion.
Now here we are starting to get somewhere, that is; it is 'behavior', which is what is Truly 'beautiful' or 'ugly', itself.
Physical forms of 'beauty' or 'ugliness' is just too arbitrary to even be worthy of REAL discussion, but WHY ALL of 'you', adult human beings, are SO JUDGMENTAL of physical 'beauty' and 'ugliness' is some 'thing', which NEEDS to be DISCUSSED, OPENLY and Honestly, that is; IF 'you' REALLY want to MOVE ON and CREATE a MUCH BETTER, and thus MORE MORE 'beautiful', 'world', through BEAUTIFUL BEHAVIOR.
Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:41 pm
Because of this, we recognize Jabba the Hutt as ugly because his body is an amorphous mass, and while his face is symmetrical, the juxtaposition of symmetry and jellyfish just makes more ugly, which could account for his ugly disposition.
So, you ended up REFUTING your OWN previous CLAIM here anyway.
Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:41 pm
"It's unfortunate what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye is seldom the same." - Fabienne
Will you provide examples?