tapaticmadness wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:13 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:23 am
tapaticmadness wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:45 am
When we think or feel or remember or imagine something there is more than likely an associated physiological event going on in the brain. Who knows, maybe that is always the case for every mental act, I don't know. The link between that mental act and the brain event is association. That's all one can say. I think you want to go farther and say that it is identity, so that the mental act and its object ARE the brain event. That would be illogical. The mind and the brain move along parallel tracks. Parallelism. If one track disappeared, there is no logical reason the other couldn't still be there. The link you always speak of is no more than association. Nothing more.
I am not going to waste time arguing against Dualism.
What I am interested is the linkage between the activities in the brain [collectively the mind] and the resultant acts committed by the person.
Thus the productive strategy is,
if there are 400,000+ homicides [2017 stats] per year,
then,
it has something to do with what is going on the brain [objective mnd] of the killers.
With the establishment of secular absolute objective oughts within an efficient Morality Model and understanding what is going within the brain, humanity will be able to vary the variable involved in a controlled manner to reduce the number of homicides progressively.
What proposals are you making the world a better to live in for all of humanity?
You are trying to stop some homicides by manipulating the brain of potential killers. I try to stop a headache by giving myself aspirin. The aspirin works, so why not do as you propose. I have no objection. Maybe it will work. That doesn't change my dualism.
I have always qualified whatever actions to be taken for improvements must be tested and verified to be FOOLPROOF without side effects.
One point is I don't intend to do anything re morally with the potential killers at present.
It is a bit too late to change their already existing potential to kill other than to use secular laws and enforcement to deter them to the minimum.
What I am proposing are FOOLPROOF [without side effects] actions for the moral potential of
future generations where people are born spontaneously with effective inhibitors to manage and modulate their inherent killing impulses.
That was the second or third time that you accused me of doing nothing to help humanity. I told you before that I was a gay activist trying to make life better for gay people. Do you not see that at doing something worthwhile? Or are you homophobic?
OK I agree that is a good thing which is at least something better than nothing.
However whatever you do will not be very effective due to the primal instinct of 'tribalism' which is basically the 'dualism' you propounded.
With the inherent 'tribalism' of
us versus them, people will instinct distant themselves from the 'them' on any element of differences, i.e. skin color, race, politics, sexuality, etc.
The explanation for homosexuality is that it is a natural thing within nature as explained with the principles of the Normal Distribution where there are extremes with the distribution of variables of human nature, e.g. height, skin color, sexuality, gender, hair color, eye color, etc.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... l_Rule.PNG
For example the distribution of height within all humans on earth, there will be the average of say 5 feet 7 inches where 66% will range from 5 feet to 6'2" feet. 1% will be under 3.5 feet and 1% above 7'2" feet.
It is the same with sexuality where it is likely homosexuality could be like 10% [thereabout] of all population.
As such homosexuality must be accepted as natural occurrence and morally no one should view homosexuality negatively.
But tribalism - the
us versus them instinct is also very primal and normal.
Thus those at the extreme end [may be majority] or those who are strongly driven by tribalism will view homosexuality [a sensitive element*] negatively.
This natural adverse view is strongly reflected in the major religions, i.e. the Abrahamic religions which are represented by 80% of theists.
There is no way, human can resolve the issue of the deeply ingrained tribalism and existential crisis which is negative towards homosexuality easily
at present. Best of luck to your activism but I expect any progress to be very slow.
As such it would be better for you to develop equanimity* against the natural and inevitable negativity of homophobia at present.
Buddhist philosophy is very effective at this process or perhaps just blindly cling to Christianity's "Love your enemies" no matter what.
Thus to resolve the antagonistic view of homosexuality from the majority of people efficiently and expeditiously we need to trace to trace to the
root causes, which is
tribalism and the sensitivity to homosexuality which is triggered by the
existential crisis.
In the future there is hope, there will be a need to look the neural algorithm in the brain re the adverse views of those who are homophobic and to ensure their {cannot get rid of}
inherent and
unavoidable tribalism and existential crisis in this direction is well managed and modulated from birth, i.e. dealt at root level rather than firefighting the symptoms.
Thus your apprehension and condemnation of my direction toward the algorithm of the brain [mind] is merely limiting your progress to the resolution of natural homophobia and providing no hope of greater progress for your cause in the future.
