Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:33 am
LOL
And HOW, EXACTLY, could having 'emotions' and 'past experiences' MAKE what I SAID ANY LESS True?
Ah, so you're don't the fact that, as just one example amongst many, that people who have been sexually abused as children are much more likely to overeat and it is much harder for them to simply move more and eat less. Empathy is important, in case people from the future have forgotten that.
Do you HAVE A link WHERE IT STATES that 'children who have been sexually abused',are MUCH MORE LIKELY TO so-call 'overeat'? (By the way, ALL OF 'you', adult human beings, WERE 'sexually abused' BACK IN 'those days' when this was being written. Although OBVIOUSLY CONTRARY to popular BELIEF, BACK THEN).
ALSO, HOW IS the word 'overeat' being in REFERENCED TO, EXACTLY, here?
LOL It is NO MORE 'harder' FOR ANY 'one' to MOVE MORE and/or EAT LESS than it is for ANY 'one' "ELSE".
Although it can, OBVIOUSLY, FEEL 'that way' FOR SOME.
IF, and WHEN, one GAINED FULL 'EMPATHY', then 'this' BECAME FULLY UNDERSTOOD.
But MOST of 'you', adult human beings, BACK in the days when this was being written WERE STILL quite SOME WAY OFF FROM GAINING 'this EMPATHY'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
ALSO, have 'you' FORGOTTEN here "iwannaplato" that human beings ARE the ONLY animal that OVER eats, UNDER moves.
I haven't forgotten that.
Of course we have the most neuroplastic brains of any animal.
LOL ANOTHER DISTORTED example of the WAY adult human beings THOUGHT and BELIEVED, BACK in those days when this was being written.
The brain ONLY GATHERS and STORES information OR knowledge. HOW 'you', human beings, CHANGE, in order to LEARN and SEE what IS ACTUALLY True AND Right IS DONE ANOTHER WAY. Of which 'you' ARE YET TO LEARN, and UNDERSTAND, "iwwanplato". OBVIOUSLY by what is being written here, BY 'you'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
It doesn't contradict what I said.
Did I SAY or SUGGEST that 'it' DID here?
If yes, then WHERE, EXACTLY?
'you' SAID that my so-called 'simple formula' would generally be correct, IF 'you', human beings, were machines.
I just followed this CLAIM of 'yours' POINTING OUT and SHOWING that 'you', human beings, are ACTUALLY just ANOTHER 'animal', just like ALL the OTHER animals ARE, which ARE NOT 'out of sync' WITH their NATURAL ORDER OF 'things'.
ONLY, 'you', human beings, OBVIOUSLY ARE.
So, ESSENTIALLY, 'this' has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH being A 'machine' or NOT, but having TO DO WITH 'you', human being, ANIMAL, ALONE. OF WHICH IF ANY or ALL of 'you' ATE LESS, and, MOVED MORE 'you' could NOT put on MORE WEIGHT.
'This' is JUST ANOTHER Fact that can NOT be REFUTED.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
Step 1. LEARNING, UNDERSTANDING, KNOWING, and MOST IMPORTANTLY ACCEPTING that eating LESS and moving MORE means that one could NOT put on MORE weight.
So, there we HAVE the ACTUAL REMEDY for ANY and ALL who REALLY and Truly WANT TO LOSE 'weight' and NOT 'weight gain'.
No, it's an imcomplete remedy for many people, if not most, given our access to food.
DID 'you' MISS, or just MISUNDERSTAND, the word 'Step', and/or the number '1', here?
LOL It does NOT matter ONE IOTA if even just one human being had ACCESS to ALL the FOOD in the Universe, 'this' STILL does NOT TAKE AWAY FROM the IRREFUTABLE Fact that if one just EATS LESS and MOVES MORE that 'that one' can NOT put on MORE WEIGHT.
Even WITH the MOST BASIC and SIMPLEST Facts IN Life, even when 'they' ARE IRREFUTABLE, SOME people just take LONGER TO LEARN, SEE, and UNDERSTAND.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
I don't think you understand some core things about humans.
Yes, 'you', and "others", have SAID, and/or IMPLIED, 'this' quite a few times ALREADY.
BUT what 'you', and/or "others", think or do not think is NOT necessary True, Right NOR Correct, AT ALL or even PARTLY.
I REALLY HOPE 'this' IS STARTING TO 'sink in', as some say, BY 'now'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
And if you think it is so simply then I recommend that you go to places online where people who have problems with overeating gather, and you give them your simple solution.
WHY?
OBVIOUSLY, EITHER, IF one 'eats' LESS and 'moves' MORE 'they' WILL:
1. Lose weight.
2. Stay the same weight.
3. Put on weight.
Now if ABSOLUTELY thinks or BELIEVES that it WOULD BE '2' or '3', THEN EXPLAIN HOW, and WHY.
And, if ABSOLUTELY DISAGREES WITH number '1', THEN EXPLAIN HOW, and WHY.
ALSO, for those who have NOT been LISTENING, I NEVER SAID just EATING LESS and/nor MOVING MORE is some 'thing' ANY one of 'you' WOULD DO WITHOUT KNOWING THE OTHER THINGS, which I ALLUDED TO in the OTHER steps.
OBVIOUSLY, just TELLING 'you', human beings, SIMPLE IRREFUTABLE Facts does NOT MEAN that 'you' WILL AGREE WITH 'them', ACCEPT 'them', NOR even just LISTEN TO 'them'.
As 'you', interlocutors here, ARE PROVING SO IRREFUTABLY True, and as "others" HAVE PROVED True, BEFORE 'you'.
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:21 am
Or better yet, actually go somewhere and get work, working with clients who want to lose weight and see how successful your simple solution is to the problem.
Are 'you' STILL 'TRYING TO' CLAIM that it IS POSSIBLE to put WEIGHT ON WITH 'that SOLUTION'?
By the way, here we have ANOTHER GREAT example of WHEN one MISSES, completely, the WHOLE POINT, BECAUSE they ARE LOOKING, LISTENING, and ASSUMING FROM 'the brain', and their OWN personal 'past experiences', and NOT OPENLY, and Honestly.