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Do you believe in equality under the law for women, children and gays?

I do for gays but not for women and children.

When it comes to women and children, I think men are duty bound to put family duty and responsibilities above themselves and thus men should not consider themselves as equal to women and children. Men should put the needs of women and children ahead of their own.

Think in terms of the good logic of the law of the sea and it being applied to land.

It is said by many that the courts favor women in most divorce cases. Given that almost 50% of all household are maned by single women, are our courts thinking more as I do and does that make them dishonest in terms of equality under the law?

Thoughts?

Regards
DL

Sigh...'Equal rights' doesn't mean the same as 'equal'. Humans can't be 'equal'. It's meaningless when used in that way. Is a cat 'equal' to a dog, or even another cat?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:01 pm Sigh...'Equal rights' doesn't mean the same as 'equal'. Humans can't be 'equal'. It's meaningless when used in that way. Is a cat 'equal' to a dog, or even another cat?

Equality under the law is more equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome which is what I think you are talking about.

I agree that equality of outcome cannot be possible.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:53 pmDo you believe in equality under the law for women, children and gays?

I do for gays but not for women and children.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:51 pmEquality under the law is more equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome which is what I think you are talking about.

I agree that equality of outcome cannot be possible.

From what I can gather, you believe that heterosexual male adults have, and deserve, some privileged legal status, that the majority of the population can only access by invitation. Do you really mean that?

uwot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:15 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:53 pmDo you believe in equality under the law for women, children and gays?

I do for gays but not for women and children.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:51 pmEquality under the law is more equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome which is what I think you are talking about.

I agree that equality of outcome cannot be possible.

From what I can gather, you believe that heterosexual male adults have, and deserve, some privileged legal status, that the majority of the population can only access by invitation. Do you really mean that?

If you can quote where you even get that, I will be pleased to have a look at my grammar.

Nothing in what you quoted indicates that I gave any heterosexual males any privileged legal status. In fact, I indicated that they are being denied that in divorce cases.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:25 pmIf you can quote where you even get that, I will be pleased to have a look at my grammar.

Here:

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:53 pmDo you believe in equality under the law for women, children and gays?

I do for gays but not for women and children.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:01 pm Sigh...'Equal rights' doesn't mean the same as 'equal'. Humans can't be 'equal'. It's meaningless when used in that way. Is a cat 'equal' to a dog, or even another cat?

Cats are soooo better than those simpering fool dogs.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:01 pm Sigh...'Equal rights' doesn't mean the same as 'equal'. Humans can't be 'equal'. It's meaningless when used in that way. Is a cat 'equal' to a dog, or even another cat?

Cats are soooo better than those simpering fool dogs.

I could not disagree more. My dog has more personality than any 100 cats!

Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:01 am

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:01 pm Sigh...'Equal rights' doesn't mean the same as 'equal'. Humans can't be 'equal'. It's meaningless when used in that way. Is a cat 'equal' to a dog, or even another cat?

Cats are soooo better than those simpering fool dogs.

I could not disagree more. My dog has more personality than any 100 cats!

If you had two dogs, you certainly could disagree more.

Dogs stink and grovel to humans. No self-respect at all.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:42 am Dogs stink and grovel to humans. No self-respect at all.

That dogs with too much self respect are a lot worse.

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:30 am

Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:01 am

Dalek Prime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:48 am
Cats are soooo better than those simpering fool dogs.

I could not disagree more. My dog has more personality than any 100 cats!

If you had two dogs, you certainly could disagree more.

Touché!

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:42 am Dogs stink and grovel to humans. No self-respect at all.

Ah, you misunderstand. Just try to get cooperation out of a dog that you treat meanly. If you are no fun, when you call the dog will drag its feet and take forever. If you are fun and kind they will run to you (usually). Thus dogs shape human behaviour as much as any unfortunate pussy-whipped cat slave :)

They do stink without regular washes, granted.

Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:19 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:42 am Dogs stink and grovel to humans. No self-respect at all.

Ah, you misunderstand. Just try to get cooperation out of a dog that you treat meanly. If you are no fun, when you call the dog will drag its feet and take forever. If you are fun and kind they will run to you (usually). Thus dogs shape human behaviour as much as any unfortunate pussy-whipped cat slave

They do stink without regular washes, granted.

Bow to your cat overlords, you yet to be whipped human!

Greta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:19 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:42 am Dogs stink and grovel to humans. No self-respect at all.

Ah, you misunderstand. Just try to get cooperation out of a dog that you treat meanly. If you are no fun, when you call the dog will drag its feet and take forever. If you are fun and kind they will run to you (usually). Thus dogs shape human behaviour as much as any unfortunate pussy-whipped cat slave

They do stink without regular washes, granted.

I like both anyway. Dogs are lovely, kind creatures. I just don't like the whole 'cat person' 'dog person' rubbish. I've found self-proclaimed 'dog people' tend to think they are a cut above inferior 'cat peole'. Humans are ridiculous.