Re: What would be important for you to do before dying ?
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:04 am
So, I had a look at your Introduction. From that, it seems clear that you have a message for others in how to live in peace and harmony. You found a 'formula' after seeking help to become a better person. 'Just by truly listening and by truly answering honestly and fully those meaningful questions of life just start coming to light'...you 'began to discover how mind and brain works'. Leading to 'How to gain full understanding and thus forgiveness'. So, some kind of enlightenment as to who you are and what it is all about. You suggest that if we are open ( not believing or disbelieving in anything) > true intelligence > learn more, 'including how easy it really is for all of us to live in peace and harmony'.ken wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 amThat, as an adult, you are totally responsible for how you behave and misbehave, and if you are truly honest and open about the wrong behavior along with seriously willing to change, for the better, then you will be enlightened to those answers you are seeking as well as obtain that what you started out truly wanting in life.marjoram_blues wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:54 pmAnd how to find peace if misunderstood?
Your post reminded me of the Prayer of St. Francis.
Basically, the focus shifts: To understand v to be understood.
To actively bring peace; love; hope; consolation...compared to hate; despair; sadness.
So, it takes at least two. Someone who wants to be understood, needs the understanding of another.
And how do we reach understanding...by experience and careful listening. And ability to communicate clearly and honestly.
Not so hard you would think...
Only a lifetime's work...and even then...
One worry is finding the right words, especially to the dying. Some understand without words. Sometimes a hug is enough. Some don't want to be touched. It is knowing the person and relating - so as to maximise peace/healing - minimise hurt and harm.
We can only do our best.
What is it you want people to understand?
You claim to see and understand why every person is the way they are and why they do the things they do. You state you enjoy the challenge of 'learning how to show [us] how to live in peace and harmony. The hardest thing is to show 'that what is right when others do not and will not believe'.
So far, so good?
And now - before your body stops breathing, the important thing to do is 'learning how to be understood'.
The aim for all of us to live in peace and harmony, after being enlightened.
Do you consider your current life to be peaceful and harmonious?
I doubt it. Given the diversity of people, thoughts, problems in the world - I doubt there will ever be a time when all of us will live in peace and harmony. And that is a good thing.
Who wants peace in the world, if it is dependent on us having some kind of static agreement or understanding, based on...
what exactly ?
A singular kind of enlightenment formula ?
I doubt your claim that you 'can see and understand why every person is the way they are and why they do the things they do'.
But please do carry on enjoying the challenge of persuasion. Because that is what I think this is - not so much a concern of 'learning how to be understood'. It is in people's rejection of your particular 'understanding' which comes over as being morally superior. How do you know you are 'better' than the person you were before...how do you know 'what is right'.
Would you want everyone to believe as you do - is it important before people die for them to have 'understood' your message?