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why can't there be a perfect argument?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:29 pm
by igotnogrammar
Simple and concise and unambiguous,truth.

Sometimes arguing will derail the topic not far
but the topic must stay the same, and must be comprehended completely.



Being rational won't help as they were backed up by reason and logic, which they both backed up by old theories which make them conventional and seem plausible.Which are excuses.

Alas it will always end up with their own reason/logic backed up by old theories and you will need time to destroy the theory which was irrelevant,and change their point of views

Re: why can't there be a perfect argument?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:12 pm
by FlashDangerpants
igotnogrammar wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 11:29 pm Simple and concise and unambiguous,truth.

Sometimes arguing will derail the topic not far
but the topic must stay the same, and must be comprehended completely.



Being rational won't help as they were backed up by reason and logic, which they both backed up by old theories which make them conventional and seem plausible.Which are excuses.

Alas it will always end up with their own reason/logic backed up by old theories and you will need time to destroy the theory which was irrelevant,and change their point of views
Well, your user name checks out, so well done there.

Unfortunately this leave the question of what you are on about impossible to answer.

Re: why can't there be a perfect argument?

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:33 pm
by HexHammer
igotnogrammar wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 11:29 pm Sometimes arguing will derail the topic not far
but the topic must stay the same, and must be comprehended completely.

Being rational won't help as they were backed up by reason and logic, which they both backed up by old theories which make them conventional and seem plausible.Which are excuses.

Alas it will always end up with their own reason/logic backed up by old theories and you will need time to destroy the theory which was irrelevant,and change their point of views
Pure nonsense and babble ..something straight from fairytale land!

1) most people are GLARINGLY ignorant and doesn't know much about anything other than outdated books!

2) reading books gives you a certain amount of knowledge, but doesn't get to think big difficult things, thus never gets to "run a marathon"

3) most are glaringly bad at analyzing and only gets like 1% of the truth and never the deeper truths.

4) never trains in critical thinking nor abstract or holistic thinking!

Re: why can't there be a perfect argument?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:20 am
by commonsense
igotnogrammar wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 11:29 pm Simple and concise and unambiguous,truth.

Sometimes arguing will derail the topic not far
but the topic must stay the same, and must be comprehended completely.

Being rational won't help as they were backed up by reason and logic, which they both backed up by old theories which make them conventional and seem plausible.Which are excuses.

Alas it will always end up with their own reason/logic backed up by old theories and you will need time to destroy the theory which was irrelevant,and change their point of views
Is this argument perfect or does it have room for improvement?

If A then B
If B then A or -A
If B then A or If B then -A
If B then -A
If -A then B or -B
If A then -B or B
If A then -B or If A then B
If A then -B
QED

Is If A then B true or is If A then not B true?

The gauntlet is thrown ;)

Re: why can't there be a perfect argument?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:14 pm
by commonsense
commonsense wrote: Wed May 31, 2017 1:20 am
igotnogrammar wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 11:29 pm Simple and concise and unambiguous,truth.

Sometimes arguing will derail the topic not far
but the topic must stay the same, and must be comprehended completely.

Being rational won't help as they were backed up by reason and logic, which they both backed up by old theories which make them conventional and seem plausible.Which are excuses.

Alas it will always end up with their own reason/logic backed up by old theories and you will need time to destroy the theory which was irrelevant,and change their point of views
Is this argument perfect or does it have room for improvement?

If A then B
If B then A or -A
If B then A or If B then -A
If B then -A
If -A then B or -B
If A then -B or B
If A then -B or If A then B
If A then -B
QED

Is If A then B true or is If A then not B true?

The gauntlet is thrown ;)
Does no one see the fault in this?

And anyway if there can be an imperfect argument does that mean there can be no perfect argument?