What makes you puke?
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:54 pm
Overeating makes me puke.
For the discussion of all things philosophical, especially articles in the magazine Philosophy Now.
https://forum.philosophynow.org/
I hear you Greta. I could have written this myself... It's very poignant what you've addressed here, and I agree with everything you've said.Greta wrote:Metaphorically: our (including me) inability to stay grounded in reality or, if drifting into the mental world, to use the imagination positively.
DAM, please pardon me if I use your thread to get something off my chest. I look at this forum and see a gaggle of nobodies pointlessly trying to tear each other down. The hostility, anger, fragility, misrepresentations and quickness to freak out over nothing continues to amaze me. I don't even know why I am here. I suspect it's ghoulishness, like watching the aftermath of a car crash. Or a character-building exercise.
It's as though most here are little tinderboxes ready to blow, seemingly reflective of the US's deteriorating mood in recent years. What makes me metaphorically puke most is the frustration of finding myself responding negatively to someone else's negativity - that even at my age experience I have not yet grown enough to not let silly bullshit affect me. Duh.
It's difficult to maintain high spirits when so many around you are struggling, miserable or full of anger - locally, online, all of the news, our increasingly irrational, corrupt and myopic polity etc.
Yet this is madness. Even if our situation is deteriorating (and yes, there are immediate issues on both individual and social scales) most of us still live in some of the best and safest conditions experienced by human beings in history. Most of human history was truly awful - short lives, high infant mortality, predators, parasites, sacrifices and so on. The take home message is that, generally, life sucks enormously and it's amazing that we humans have managed to eke out relatively gentle existences for themselves at all, even if the gentleness is seemingly short-lived and never managed to quite go global (at this stage).
The histories of the universe and Earth that we've learned about so far suggest that reality over time becomes more complex, sophisticated and interesting, so even our demise will probably lead to something better than us. Hopefully whatever replaces humankind will make even better and more sustainable lives for themselves.
Even the fact that people are becoming increasingly negative, anxious and depressed might play into this process somehow, being necessary to bring about much-needed significant global change. Those who are content and relaxed in life have something to lose and are less likely to make waves than those feeling a sense of loss.
// end rant. Ahhh Sorry for babbling on.
Bull Shit, that is just an excuse for stupid people to survive doing stupid things. You get stronger by resisting the urge to do stupid things.Dontaskme wrote: what doesn't kill you make you stronger,
I agree. I've always thought that was a particularly stupid expression.thedoc wrote:Bull Shit, that is just an excuse for stupid people to survive doing stupid things. You get stronger by resisting the urge to do stupid things.Dontaskme wrote: what doesn't kill you make you stronger,
Yep, there is a dynamic going on ATM that I find saddening on a personal level but fascinating in a David Attenborough-ish way. Is it a good thing that people have this outlet or is the outlet just feeding back and whipping them up more? Studies in psychology suggest the latter.Dontaskme wrote:I hear you Greta. I could have written this myself... It's very poignant what you've addressed here, and I agree with everything you've said.Greta wrote:Metaphorically: our (including me) inability to stay grounded in reality or, if drifting into the mental world, to use the imagination positively.
DAM, please pardon me if I use your thread to get something off my chest. I look at this forum and see a gaggle of nobodies pointlessly trying to tear each other down. The hostility, anger, fragility, misrepresentations and quickness to freak out over nothing continues to amaze me. I don't even know why I am here. I suspect it's ghoulishness, like watching the aftermath of a car crash. Or a character-building exercise.
It's as though most here are little tinderboxes ready to blow, seemingly reflective of the US's deteriorating mood in recent years. What makes me metaphorically puke most is the frustration of finding myself responding negatively to someone else's negativity - that even at my age experience I have not yet grown enough to not let silly bullshit affect me. Duh.
It's difficult to maintain high spirits when so many around you are struggling, miserable or full of anger - locally, online, all of the news, our increasingly irrational, corrupt and myopic polity etc.
Yet this is madness. Even if our situation is deteriorating (and yes, there are immediate issues on both individual and social scales) most of us still live in some of the best and safest conditions experienced by human beings in history. Most of human history was truly awful - short lives, high infant mortality, predators, parasites, sacrifices and so on. The take home message is that, generally, life sucks enormously and it's amazing that we humans have managed to eke out relatively gentle existences for themselves at all, even if the gentleness is seemingly short-lived and never managed to quite go global (at this stage).
The histories of the universe and Earth that we've learned about so far suggest that reality over time becomes more complex, sophisticated and interesting, so even our demise will probably lead to something better than us. Hopefully whatever replaces humankind will make even better and more sustainable lives for themselves.
Even the fact that people are becoming increasingly negative, anxious and depressed might play into this process somehow, being necessary to bring about much-needed significant global change. Those who are content and relaxed in life have something to lose and are less likely to make waves than those feeling a sense of loss.
// end rant. Ahhh :) Sorry for babbling on.
Please remember, what doesn't kill you make you stronger, your strength of character will grow and grow...never give in to the Bric-brats by lowering yourself to their level,we are strong women today Greta, and I'm deeply sorry if I've ever been mean to you here. I believe people are walking around in a sort of quiet desperation these days.Not knowing what's going to happen next, it's very scary the climate of fear is growing. We unleash our fears and unwanted emotional garbage off over the internet at complete strangers, because it's an easy dumping ground where no one knows anybody else, so it's not going to matter that much what I say or who gets hurt ..
Within you Greta there is a free spirit that refuses to be defined by social stereotypes that's why you are here..never give up on your search for truth.You are part of a revolution happening on this planet. It's a revolution of love triumphing over fear, of creativity over the same-old same-old, of individuality instead of toeing the line, of creating new consciousness even if it means breaking old rules.
Do you like puking?Dontaskme wrote:Overeating makes me puke.
You have no idea how pertinent this is.*Greta wrote:Metaphorically: our (including me) inability to stay grounded in reality or, if drifting into the mental world, to use the imagination positively.
DAM, please pardon me if I use your thread to get something off my chest. I look at this forum and see a gaggle of nobodies pointlessly trying to tear each other down. The hostility, anger, fragility, misrepresentations and quickness to freak out over nothing continues to amaze me. I don't even know why I am here. I suspect it's ghoulishness, like watching the aftermath of a car crash. Or a character-building exercise.
It's as though most here are little tinderboxes ready to blow, seemingly reflective of the US's deteriorating mood in recent years. What makes me metaphorically puke most is the frustration of finding myself responding negatively to someone else's negativity - that even at my age experience I have not yet grown enough to not let silly bullshit affect me. Duh.
It's difficult to maintain high spirits when so many around you are struggling, miserable or full of anger - locally, online, all of the news, our increasingly irrational, corrupt and myopic polity etc.
Yet this is madness. Even if our situation is deteriorating (and yes, there are immediate issues on both individual and social scales) most of us still live in some of the best and safest conditions experienced by human beings in history. Most of human history was truly awful - short lives, high infant mortality, predators, parasites, sacrifices and so on. The take home message is that, generally, life sucks enormously and it's amazing that we humans have managed to eke out relatively gentle existences for themselves at all, even if the gentleness is seemingly short-lived and never managed to quite go global (at this stage).
The histories of the universe and Earth that we've learned about so far suggest that reality over time becomes more complex, sophisticated and interesting, so even our demise will probably lead to something better than us. Hopefully whatever replaces humankind will make even better and more sustainable lives for themselves.
Even the fact that people are becoming increasingly negative, anxious and depressed might play into this process somehow, being necessary to bring about much-needed significant global change. Those who are content and relaxed in life have something to lose and are less likely to make waves than those feeling a sense of loss.
// end rant. Ahhh Sorry for babbling on.
Cheers, I'm glad it resonated. I'd have been surprised if at least some others didn't feel similarly. The discontent is hard to miss!ForCruxSake wrote:You have no idea how pertinent this is.*Greta wrote:Metaphorically: our (including me) inability to stay grounded in reality or, if drifting into the mental world, to use the imagination positively.
DAM, please pardon me if I use your thread to get something off my chest. I look at this forum and see a gaggle of nobodies pointlessly trying to tear each other down. The hostility, anger, fragility, misrepresentations and quickness to freak out over nothing continues to amaze me. I don't even know why I am here. I suspect it's ghoulishness, like watching the aftermath of a car crash. Or a character-building exercise.
It's as though most here are little tinderboxes ready to blow, seemingly reflective of the US's deteriorating mood in recent years. What makes me metaphorically puke most is the frustration of finding myself responding negatively to someone else's negativity - that even at my age experience I have not yet grown enough to not let silly bullshit affect me. Duh.
It's difficult to maintain high spirits when so many around you are struggling, miserable or full of anger - locally, online, all of the news, our increasingly irrational, corrupt and myopic polity etc.
Yet this is madness. Even if our situation is deteriorating (and yes, there are immediate issues on both individual and social scales) most of us still live in some of the best and safest conditions experienced by human beings in history. Most of human history was truly awful - short lives, high infant mortality, predators, parasites, sacrifices and so on. The take home message is that, generally, life sucks enormously and it's amazing that we humans have managed to eke out relatively gentle existences for themselves at all, even if the gentleness is seemingly short-lived and never managed to quite go global (at this stage).
The histories of the universe and Earth that we've learned about so far suggest that reality over time becomes more complex, sophisticated and interesting, so even our demise will probably lead to something better than us. Hopefully whatever replaces humankind will make even better and more sustainable lives for themselves.
Even the fact that people are becoming increasingly negative, anxious and depressed might play into this process somehow, being necessary to bring about much-needed significant global change. Those who are content and relaxed in life have something to lose and are less likely to make waves than those feeling a sense of loss.
// end rant. Ahhh :) Sorry for babbling on.
Like coming across a sandwich, with your name on it, when you're hungry. Thank you. :)
*Or maybe you do. You did, after all, write it.
Well I'm guessing that's what makes you puke, listening to other peoples stupid clichés.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I agree. I've always thought that was a particularly stupid expression.thedoc wrote:Bull Shit, that is just an excuse for stupid people to survive doing stupid things. You get stronger by resisting the urge to do stupid things.Dontaskme wrote: what doesn't kill you make you stronger,
It doesn't make me puke. I can't remember the last time I puked. I must have a strong stomach.Dontaskme wrote:Well I'm guessing that's what makes you puke, listening to other peoples stupid clichés.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I agree. I've always thought that was a particularly stupid expression.thedoc wrote:
Bull Shit, that is just an excuse for stupid people to survive doing stupid things. You get stronger by resisting the urge to do stupid things.
Stupid is as stupid does....
Ooops, there's goes another one.
Thanks for your comments.Greta wrote:
In truth, there is constant conflict of interest - with higher level entities controlling and harnessing their constituent, with the latter always "trying to make a break for freedom". In less anthropomorphic terms, unless they are controlled, constituent entities will normally tend to either push away from, or not react to, controlling entities. A good example of the relationship is seen in death, where our gut microbes consume our bodies (since there's no more other food to eat). If we are not strong enough to control our constituents then they will consume us; our microbes obviously only help us because they are captive, not because they give a damn about us
So in this way, nature seems to basically consist of countless overlapping systems, each a relatively uneasy balancing acts, generally existing on the precipice of annihilation. All of these precarious systems are destined to eventually fall into disequilibrium and feed whatever systems that remain.
I don't overeat because I know it makes me puke, so I have to be careful not to take in too much food at one time, my stomach is overly sensitive.ken wrote:Do you like puking?Dontaskme wrote:Overeating makes me puke.
If not, then why do you continue to overeat?