Re: Complexity, deception and Occam
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm
Many great philosophers used to be criticised in his era for speaking nonsense because they were not understood or misunderstood by the public.
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And I daresay even more bad philosophers have suffered the same fate.Zarathustra wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm Many great philosophers used to be criticised in his era for speaking nonsense because they were not understood or misunderstood by the public.
Thank you for pointing this out. This is exactly the case with my work. No one in history has said the things I've said and it takes time for it to be assimilatedZarathustra wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm Many great philosophers used to be criticised in his era for speaking nonsense because they were not understood or misunderstood by the public.
Philosophers philosophize because they know they existed while they are thinking. They don't want any concluding answers because if they are no longer thinking, then that's the death of the ego (the illusionary self). This is why hardly anyone here tries to understand what I'm presenting, even though it's actually easily understood.Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:10 pmAnd I daresay even more bad philosophers have suffered the same fate.Zarathustra wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm Many great philosophers used to be criticised in his era for speaking nonsense because they were not understood or misunderstood by the public.
But basically you are a voice in consciousness. Inner and outer are both inner, in the end, as the person mulls over your language based assertions and language-based approach. They now have your voice in their head for that time and after should they mull over it.roydop wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:45 pm It is revealing the singular fundamental source of all problems and suffering, and the cure.
The cure is to silence thought. The voice in consciousness is deceiving you and all of humanity. But the delusion is very deeply rooted and the vast majority of humanity will not engage in a singularly-focused meditation practice
But if it's a delusion you're not really being laughed at and ridiculed. It's just part of your delusion.
But the world's suffering is just YOUR delusion. You're projecting your delusions onto everyone else. I'm doing just fine. Sure I experience some suffering, but I experience happiness as well, and suffering is necessary to know happiness. It's a balance. A relationship in that you cannot have one without the other. Looking for an end to all suffering will just bring about the suffering of boredom, which is probably what you mean about silencing thought. How boring.roydop wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:45 pmIt is revealing the singular fundamental source of all problems and suffering, and the cure.
The cure is to silence thought. The voice in consciousness is deceiving you and all of humanity. But the delusion is very deeply rooted and the vast majority of humanity will not engage in a singularly-focused meditation practice
Sure you are, which is why you said this earlier:
Why do you make it so easy to refute what you say?
You say that the self is illusionary, but then what, or who are "philosophers", "they", "anyone" and "I'm" if not other selves and your self? You say that selves are illusionary while talking as if they are real. When you said you are the "greatest philosopher of all time", were you talking about your illusionary self?roydop wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:35 pm Philosophers philosophize because they know they existed while they are thinking. They don't want any concluding answers because if they are no longer thinking, then that's the death of the ego (the illusionary self). This is why hardly anyone here tries to understand what I'm presenting, even though it's actually easily understood.
In my opinion, Immanuel Kant is rightly criticized for arguing the undefinability of existence in his critique of pure reason.Zarathustra wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm Many great philosophers used to be criticised in his era for speaking nonsense because they were not understood or misunderstood by the public.
I no longer suffer. There's my evidence. I'm presenting the direct path to the transcendence of all suffering, but y'all would rather continue on suffering.Trajk Logik wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:50 amBut if it's a delusion you're not really being laughed at and ridiculed. It's just part of your delusion.
You can escape your delusion by ignoring this forum and never come back.
But the world's suffering is just YOUR delusion. You're projecting your delusions onto everyone else. I'm doing just fine. Sure I experience some suffering, but I experience happiness as well, and suffering is necessary to know happiness. It's a balance. A relationship in that you cannot have one without the other. Looking for an end to all suffering will just bring about the suffering of boredom, which is probably what you mean about silencing thought. How boring.roydop wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:45 pmIt is revealing the singular fundamental source of all problems and suffering, and the cure.
The cure is to silence thought. The voice in consciousness is deceiving you and all of humanity. But the delusion is very deeply rooted and the vast majority of humanity will not engage in a singularly-focused meditation practice
Sure you are, which is why you said this earlier:Why do you make it so easy to refute what you say?
You say that the self is illusionary, but then what, or who are "philosophers", "they", "anyone" and "I'm" if not other selves and your self? You say that selves are illusionary while talking as if they are real. When you said you are the "greatest philosopher of all time", were you talking about your illusionary self?roydop wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:35 pm Philosophers philosophize because they know they existed while they are thinking. They don't want any concluding answers because if they are no longer thinking, then that's the death of the ego (the illusionary self). This is why hardly anyone here tries to understand what I'm presenting, even though it's actually easily understood.
We don't seem to understand because you can't give a straight, non-contradictory, useful answer to any question posed to you. It is you that have created the circumstances of our "not understanding" with your word salad and mental gymnastics. I'll just wait until you win the Nobel Peace Prize and have someone with a better grasp of the English language explain to me your "profound" discovery.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
You do understand (?) that this might well be evidence for you of something, but your words on a screen about it are not evidence for others.