It's for people who 'feel like idiots', not actual idiots...attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:28 amGreat video so far Veg, really looking forward to learning how I can 'non-locally' punch a New Zealand grandmother in the head.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:03 pm ''Quantum mechanics for people who feel like idiots''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZiwtfr ... ceFestival
Nobel Prize for Physics 2022 awarded to 3 scientists for work in Quantum Mechanics
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(so you still feel like me hey? ..I am shagalicious)
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Strange. Probably the single most profound and important discovery in science AND philosophy and there are fuck all comments about it.
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This is how I feel about it too, but I've realized that most philosophers are remarkably uncomfortable with quantum physics. On every philosophy forum that has a physics section, you'll find people denying QM much more frequently than people accepting it.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:32 pm Strange. Probably the single most profound and important discovery in science AND philosophy and there are fuck all comments about it.
Which is really weird, because QM is so fascinating from a philosophical perspective, but it's like... it's like philosophers are as close minded to actual physics as philosophers think scientists are to philosophy.
Philosophers reject QM because it's too weird for them. They can't accept anything that suggests the world operates in a much stranger fashion than we're used to thinking about. I would have thought that if ANYBODY would be open minded to that idea, it would have been philosophers, but that turns out to be the opposite of the truth.
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I personally have commented on quantum mechanics on this site until the cows came home, left, and came home again.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:10 pmThis is how I feel about it too, but I've realized that most philosophers are remarkably uncomfortable with quantum physics. On every philosophy forum that has a physics section, you'll find people denying QM much more frequently than people accepting it.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:32 pm Strange. Probably the single most profound and important discovery in science AND philosophy and there are fuck all comments about it.
Which is really weird, because QM is so fascinating from a philosophical perspective, but it's like... it's like philosophers are as close minded to actual physics as philosophers think scientists are to philosophy.
Philosophers reject QM because it's too weird for them. They can't accept anything that suggests the world operates in a much stranger fashion than we're used to thinking about. I would have thought that if ANYBODY would be open minded to that idea, it would have been philosophers, but that turns out to be the opposite of the truth.
See my threads: "What is gravity?" - viewtopic.php?f=12&t=23943
...and...
"Is the universe created from an "informationally-based" substance?" - viewtopic.php?f=12&t=34537
Indeed, the implications of the discoveries in quantum physics (especially quantum entanglement) are an integral feature of a video lecture series I created back in the 90s, and a book I self-published in 2008.
Here's a short (7.5 min) excerpt from one of my video episodes on YouTube - https://youtu.be/bVbpHy4nncA
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Perhaps it's nonsense like this that puts people off. Keep your 'god' out of it you yank nitwit.seeds wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:47 pm
Here's a short (7.5 min) excerpt from one of my video episodes on YouTube - https://youtu.be/bVbpHy4nncA
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Are you familiar with philosopher Tim Maudlin? Philosopher of quantum physics, huge fan (and expositor and explainer) of Bell, lots of Youtube videos. Here he is straightening out the Nobel prize committee. Highly lucid and engaging speaker. Been watching a lot of his vids lately, can't recommend him highly enough.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:10 pm Philosophers reject QM because it's too weird for them.
Tim Maudlin Corrects the 2022 Nobel Physics Committee About Bell's Inequality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OduDEz77h9U
Also see
https://youtu.be/QURmQA3WHEg
https://youtu.be/LUE01tjDAb8
https://youtu.be/FnBC9JA9TVY
And lots of others. This guy will change your opinion about philosophers. His insights into quantum physics are beyond anything out there.
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I saw that first one the other day. I thought Tim Maudlin was brilliant but the interviewer was an idiot.wtf wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:17 amAre you familiar with philosopher Tim Maudlin? Philosopher of quantum physics, huge fan (and expositor and explainer) of Bell, lots of Youtube videos. Here he is straightening out the Nobel prize committee. Highly lucid and engaging speaker. Been watching a lot of his vids lately, can't recommend him highly enough.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:10 pm Philosophers reject QM because it's too weird for them.
Tim Maudlin Corrects the 2022 Nobel Physics Committee About Bell's Inequality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OduDEz77h9U
Also see
https://youtu.be/QURmQA3WHEg
https://youtu.be/LUE01tjDAb8
https://youtu.be/FnBC9JA9TVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QURmQA3WHEg
And lots of others. This guy will change your opinion about philosophers. His insights into quantum physics are beyond anything out there.
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Agreed. The interviewer kept interrupting just as Maudlin was making his point.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:29 am I saw that first one the other day. I thought Tim Maudlin was brilliant but the interviewer was an idiot.
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Ah yes, veg's uplifting comment to me reminds me of that greeting card that states:
Now, how about we all pitch-in and try to find veg a good proctologist who can do something about that enormous corncob?
(I have to admit, I am definitely a nitwit for responding to her vitriol)
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Ah yes, veg's uplifting comment to me reminds me of that greeting card that states:
However, in this case it's:"You're nobody until you've been ignored by a cat"
So, this "yank nitwit" thanks her (him/it)."You're nobody until you've been insulted by the meanest person on the forum"
Now, how about we all pitch-in and try to find veg a good proctologist who can do something about that enormous corncob?
(I have to admit, I am definitely a nitwit for responding to her vitriol)
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I don't know yet if he's the interviewer, but the guy introducing things says that Maudlin is know for the poignancy of his criticism.wtf wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:32 amAgreed. The interviewer kept interrupting just as Maudlin was making his point.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:29 am I saw that first one the other day. I thought Tim Maudlin was brilliant but the interviewer was an idiot.
Poignancy meaning the quality of causing or having a very sharp feeling of sadness.
I mean, that's possible, but I truly doubt that's what he meant to say.
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I noticed that too lol. The word didn't seem to fit.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:05 amI don't know yet if he's the interviewer, but the guy introducing things says that Maudlin is know for the poignancy of his criticism.wtf wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:32 amAgreed. The interviewer kept interrupting just as Maudlin was making his point.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:29 am I saw that first one the other day. I thought Tim Maudlin was brilliant but the interviewer was an idiot.
Poignancy meaning the quality of causing or having a very sharp feeling of sadness.
I mean, that's possible, but I truly doubt that's what he meant to say.
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@vegetariantaxidermy's comment was a bit confusing. The first of my links had an introducer but not an interviewer.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:05 am I don't know yet if he's the interviewer, but the guy introducing things says that Maudlin is know for the poignancy of his criticism.
Poignancy meaning the quality of causing or having a very sharp feeling of sadness.
I mean, that's possible, but I truly doubt that's what he meant to say.
The second link was the one with the annoying interviewer. That was indeed the first link in the group of links I supplied after my first one. Hence the confusion.
Maudlin only makes me sad because I know I'll never be that smart. A lot of science types on Youtube make me angry because they're so stupid. Some of the most famous names. Not Maudlin. He's really smart.
If you look up poignant on Google, it says: ARCHAIC: sharp or pungent in taste or smell. Maybe the introducer just meant sharp.
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The first link was the one with the title 'Tim Maudlin Corrects the 2022 Nobel Committee' in the post I responded to. If Mr. Razo Bravo isn't the interviewer then what is he?wtf wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:12 am@vegetariantaxidermy's comment was a bit confusing. The first of my links had an introducer but not an interviewer.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:05 am I don't know yet if he's the interviewer, but the guy introducing things says that Maudlin is know for the poignancy of his criticism.
Poignancy meaning the quality of causing or having a very sharp feeling of sadness.
I mean, that's possible, but I truly doubt that's what he meant to say.
The second link was the one with the annoying interviewer. That was indeed the first link in the group of links I supplied after my first one. Hence the confusion.
Maudlin only makes me sad because I know I'll never be that smart. A lot of science types on Youtube make me angry because they're so stupid. Some of the most famous names. Not Maudlin. He's really smart.
If you look up poignant on Google, it says: ARCHAIC: sharp or pungent in taste or smell. Maybe the introducer just meant sharp.
I also noticed that in the description someone has but 'sic' after the word 'poignancy', which is used when someone has noticed an error but because it's a quote they don't feel inclined to change it.
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LOL Sorry I must be lost in the links. I think you're right. Suffice to say that my Youtube feed has been serving me up heaping portions of Tim Maudlin lately, and I've become a big fan. He's generally a lot smarter than all of his interviewers.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:28 am The first link was the one with the title 'Tim Maudlin Corrects the 2022 Nobel Committee' in the post I responded to. If Mr. Razo Bravo isn't the interviewer then what is he?