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https://youtu.be/RNGaFNbtKl0?t=300

Note they (a woman) asks the most insignificant, excuse of a question about the abortion. "How did the abortion change your life?" Not "Why did you have an abortion?"

The latter ultimately of which would boil down to 1.) You were raped and never intended to be pregnant or 2.) You were an irresponsible, indecisive, sexually-frivolous individual.

If you were raped the issue is rape. Not abortion.

If you were having unprotected, non-contraceptive sex the issue is irresponsibility. Not abortion.

The issue is present before it gets to the point of abortion. The real issue(s) not addressed. What an immature, indirect excuse of a question and society.

No wonder real issues are never solved in such a childish society; basic, real issues are ignored and diverted.
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:53 am https://youtu.be/RNGaFNbtKl0?t=300

Note they (a woman) asks the most insignificant, excuse of a question about the abortion. "How did the abortion change your life?" Not "Why did you have an abortion?"

The latter ultimately of which would boil down to 1.) You were raped and never intended to be pregnant or 2.) You were an irresponsible, indecisive, sexually-frivolous individual.

If you were raped the issue is rape. Not abortion.

If you were having unprotected, non-contraceptive sex the issue is irresponsibility. Not abortion.

The issue is present before it gets to the point of abortion. The real issue(s) not addressed. What an immature, indirect excuse of a question and society.

No wonder real issues are never solved in such a childish society; basic, real issues are ignored and diverted.
What the fuck is any of that supposed to mean?

ps Women don't have to give their reason for needing to end a pregnancy to you or anyone else.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 8:28 am What the fuck is any of that supposed to mean?

ps Women don't have to give their reason for needing to end a pregnancy to you or anyone else.
It signifies lack of accountability or avoidance of accountability.

"Why have the abortion?" holds the person accountable for their actions, it gets to the root of the issue at hand. "How did the abortion change your life?" does not hold the person accountable and neglects the real issue.

The original or main issues are ignored leading to secondary, additional issues.
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 9:52 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 8:28 am What the fuck is any of that supposed to mean?

ps Women don't have to give their reason for needing to end a pregnancy to you or anyone else.
It signifies lack of accountability or avoidance of accountability.

"Why have the abortion?" holds the person accountable for their actions, it gets to the root of the issue at hand. "How did the abortion change your life?" does not hold the person accountable and neglects the real issue.

The original or main issues are ignored leading to secondary, additional issues.
Learn to write comprehensibly. Meaningless gibberish won't get you anywhere. It's not my job to translate your garbage.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:39 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 3:59 am in context: I use murder to mean an unjust killng (as opposed to a just killing), not as a legal classification.

I, for the record, don't favor The State's involvement in this, or any other, matter.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am Learn to write comprehensibly. Meaningless gibberish won't get you anywhere. It's not my job to translate your garbage.
My points were adequately conveyed. Promiscuous, frivolous people usually lack valid defense of their mindless antics and subsequent actions so they resort to such diversion.

Why did you have an abortion? I mean, when did you have an abortion and how did it change your life?
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:46 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am Learn to write comprehensibly. Meaningless gibberish won't get you anywhere. It's not my job to translate your garbage.
My points were adequately conveyed. Promiscuous, frivolous people usually lack valid defense of their mindless antics and subsequent actions so they resort to such diversion.

Why did you have an abortion? I mean, when did you have an abortion and how did it change your life?
Fuck off you creepy freak.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:46 am Fuck off you creepy freak.
Lack of counterargument duly noted.

To summarize the defense of abortion is largely, if not entirely, the defense of the ability to be irresponsible, unaccountable and reckless with one of the most serious and costly interactions human beings could possibly have.
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:46 am Fuck off you creepy freak.
Lack of counterargument duly noted.

To summarize the defense of abortion is largely, if not entirely, the defense of the ability to be irresponsible, unaccountable and reckless with one of the most serious and costly interactions human beings could possibly have.
Why are abortion-aged men and women irresponsible, unaccountable, and reckless? Solve that, and there's no more need for abortion.
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Walker wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:15 pm Why are abortion-aged men and women irresponsible, unaccountable, and reckless?
Lack of maturity, lack of forethought and perhaps most importantly lack of restraint.
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Changing these lacks into adequacies, if not abundances, would then eliminate the need for abortions.

Has there ever a society when there was not a need for abortion?
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Walker wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:49 pm Changing these lacks into adequacies, if not abundances, would then eliminate the need for abortions.

Has there ever a society when there was not a need for abortion?
Perhaps the issue isn't society but rather the species. Further, perhaps the issue is biology itself.

Biology, species, at least this one, should be at the point in which such issues subside. Else humans are no better than rodents mindlessly breeding in the sewers.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:46 am
daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:46 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am Learn to write comprehensibly. Meaningless gibberish won't get you anywhere. It's not my job to translate your garbage.
My points were adequately conveyed. Promiscuous, frivolous people usually lack valid defense of their mindless antics and subsequent actions so they resort to such diversion.

Why did you have an abortion? I mean, when did you have an abortion and how did it change your life?
Fuck off you creepy freak.
Well, he's got a point.

The only reason why any rationale for abortion has ever been generated is not because we don't know what a human being is. We do. It's because certain people decided they wanted to kill a particular set of other people, and needed rationales to justify the very thing they were already determined to do.

It's not a scientific problem; nothing scientifically relevant remains unknown. Genetics tell us everything we need to know about the biological nature of the litle person who is in a woman's womb. And even the most ardent abortionist knows that. The whole reason for abortion is to have the right to kill a human, so as not to have to provide for, love and cherish her.

So the problem's a moral one, the question of whether or not it's okay to rationalize one's evil actions ex post facto. And like all moral problems, the deep root is a total contempt for God as Creator of all of us.

Abortion is simply the demand of one human being to have a permission to first create and then kill another.
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:43 pm
Walker wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:15 pm Why are abortion-aged men and women irresponsible, unaccountable, and reckless?
Lack of maturity, lack of forethought and perhaps most importantly lack of restraint.
I would add to this, and this is perhaps most significant, lack of respect for life and death.
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daniel j lavender wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 5:09 pm
Walker wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:49 pm Changing these lacks into adequacies, if not abundances, would then eliminate the need for abortions.

Has there ever a society when there was not a need for abortion?
Perhaps the issue isn't society but rather the species. Further, perhaps the issue is biology itself.

Biology, species, at least this one, should be at the point in which such issues subside. Else humans are no better than rodents mindlessly breeding in the sewers.
Why should I keep repeating the same counterarguments over and over again? There are dozens of identical threads on this site because the misogynistic kristian kunts on here just can't get enough of it. And as far as your 'argument' goes, do you really think that ''women need to stop being such sluts and bitches and behave like decent kristian women'' deserves a 'counterargument'?
I suppose 'restraint' isn't exactly a choice when you look like you. And we are all well aware of what forced 'restraint' does to creepy kristian males--just ask any alter boy.
Sex is something that normal, healthy humans enjoy and need. Deliberately trying to suppress sexuality has disastrous consequences and only breeds hypocrites like you.
It's nice that you are so supportive of the sex industry, since 'good decent' women always 'restrain' their sexuality and only 'dirty' themselves with the sex act when it's with their creepy kristian hubby (who spends much of his time watching porn and frequenting brothels).
After all, it's only women who can be 'promiscuous'.
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