Should women focus more on jobs or children?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Yes that's why thedoc and I agree

The religious halfwit and the abusive maniac, what a dynamic duo.

There's no one who more embodies both qualities than your self. Not only is it true that every single post you have ever made here is abusive (though disguised through the media of what you think is humour); but also you are religious in your zeal of being a fucking clown.

Are you on some kind of medication? You seem to be getting stupider by the day.
Hmm. I'm the 'abusive' one yet you are the one who keeps getting banned and having to slink back in disguise.

[thedoc]

so why on earth do you insist on following me around like a lovesick schoolboy?

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

[Harbal]

There's no one who more embodies both qualities than your self. Not only is it true that every single post you have ever made here is abusive (though disguised through the media of what you think is humour); but also you are religious in your zeal of being a fucking clown.

I expected something stronger than that.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

so why on earth do you insist on following me around like a lovesick schoolboy?

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

You have never countered a single point I've made, and nor has your girlfriend Hobbes. And yes, you are always there, hanging around like a fart in a flight cabin.

[thedoc]

so why on earth do you insist on following me around like a lovesick schoolboy?

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

You have never countered a single point I've made, and nor has your girlfriend Hobbes. And yes, you are always there, hanging around like a fart in a flight cabin.

You've not made any points worth countering, except to correct your lies. Stop posting and I will not respond to your lies.

BTW, the thread is here for all to read, keep making false claims and it will only reduce your credibility.

[Hobbes' Choice]

so why on earth do you insist on following me around like a lovesick schoolboy?

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

You have never countered a single point I've made, and nor has your girlfriend Hobbes. And yes, you are always there, hanging around like a fart in a flight cabin.

You've not made any points.
What you present is hysterical rantings of a sick mind.
Wazza matter, did some "Darkies" move in next door and you lost your sense of decency?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

You have never countered a single point I've made, and nor has your girlfriend Hobbes. And yes, you are always there, hanging around like a fart in a flight cabin.

You've not made any points worth countering, except to correct your lies. Stop posting and I will not respond to your lies.

BTW, the thread is here for all to read, keep making false claims and it will only reduce your credibility.

You just said you respond in order to counter my arguments. I don't know. Perhaps you are considered intelligent in your country.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I am compelled to counter your lies, that is hardly the act of a "lovesick schoolboy", if that were so I would be agreeing with everything you posted, I believe you really need a reality check.

You have never countered a single point I've made, and nor has your girlfriend Hobbes. And yes, you are always there, hanging around like a fart in a flight cabin.

You've not made any points.
What you present is hysterical rantings of a sick mind.
Wazza matter, did some "Darkies" move in next door and you lost your sense of decency?

Yep. The old R and B 'counter-argument'. Brilliant. Where did I mention colour, dark or otherwise? What are you suggesting here Hobbes? What a hypocritical little projecting racist you are Hobbsy. You and your little fascist boyfriend should get a room.

[thedoc]

You just said you respond in order to counter my arguments. I don't know. Perhaps you are considered intelligent in your country.

Not arguments, (which are nonexistent) your lies.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You just said you respond in order to counter my arguments. I don't know. Perhaps you are considered intelligent in your country.

Not arguments, (which are nonexistent) your lies.

What 'lies' would they be? Where is your 'countering' of them?

[ForCruxSake]

As a matter of fact human children need their mothers.

No, a human baby needs a parent who cares, gender doesn't matter.

I think a human baby just needs someone who cares, and can care for it. Having grown into a young child, he/she may need more, for a developing identity, something or someone to identify with, but generally they just need care.

I have to agree with Hobbes': as many children have gone on to successful lives with minimal parental interaction (as with children growing up in boarding school) as children have been fucked up by bad parenting from their actual parents.

The Israeli kibbutz system never seemed to harm child development and the kids saw their parents for a limited time during the working day, the rest of the time spent in child dorms being looked after by adults other than their own parents.

I think as long as children are well cared for, it doesn't matter who does the caring.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

As a matter of fact human children need their mothers.

No, a human baby needs a parent who cares, gender doesn't matter.

I think a human baby just needs someone who cares, and can care for it. Having grown into a young child, he/she may need more, for a developing identity, something or someone to identify with, but generally they just need care.

I have to agree with Hobbes': as many children have gone on to successful lives with minimal parental interaction (as with children growing up in boarding school) as children have been fucked up by bad parenting from their actual parents.

The Israeli kibbutz system never seemed to harm child development and the kids saw their parents for a limited time during the working day, the rest of the time spent in child dorms being looked after by adults other than their own parents.

I think as long as children are well cared for, it doesn't matter who does the caring.

It's so funny, you both like to think of yourselves as terribly enlightened 'feminists' but as is par for the course you are both full of disingenuous crap. Name another mammal whose mother isn't needed. I'm not saying human mothers are the best mothers in the animal kingdom--because they aren't by a long shot. And yes, I will state the obvious. A child that is being beaten the shit out of by a screaming alcoholic mother is probably better off with a loving, nurturing father, grandmother, grandfather.. whatever, if there happens to be one handy. Even then, children tend to yearn for their mother. What happens, more often than not, is the child is fostered out and never really loved by anyone, growing up emotionally retarded and dysfunctional. Kibbutzes have long since abandoned the rigid child-separation policy. Any half-wit could see that children would be unhappy in that system. It was about economics and an idealist socialist dream of complete equality, 'emancipation' of women from the 'burden' of child rearing-- leaving her 'free' to work for the good of the collective blah blah blah.... Of course it failed. You can't suppress human nature, and you can't stop babies and mothers from wanting to be together, or children from wanting to be with their families. I remember as a young child being taught at school about the Kibbutz system of child-rearing and being horrified at the thought of it (imperfect as my own family was). It just sounded wrong to me. And that's the gut feeling of a child, not some twit with an agenda.

[thedoc]

And yes, I will state the obvious. A child that is being beaten the shit out of by a screaming alcoholic mother is probably better off with a loving, nurturing father, grandmother, grandfather.. whatever, if there happens to be one handy.

You are so fucked up, to believe that an alcoholic mother could be better than a loving grandparent or father is really screwed up.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

And yes, I will state the obvious. A child that is being beaten the shit out of by a screaming alcoholic mother is probably better off with a loving, nurturing father, grandmother, grandfather.. whatever, if there happens to be one handy.

You are so fucked up, to believe that an alcoholic mother could be better than a loving grandparent or father is really screwed up.

Did I say that? you retarded, illiterate yank. Learn to read. So now it's become unPC to even dare to suggest that human babies need their mothers.
It's you your PC ilk who are screwed up.

[Walker]

And yes, I will state the obvious. A child that is being beaten the shit out of by a screaming alcoholic mother is probably better off with a loving, nurturing father, grandmother, grandfather.. whatever, if there happens to be one handy.

You are so fucked up, to believe that an alcoholic mother could be better than a loving grandparent or father is really screwed up.

Did I say that? you retarded, illiterate yank. Learn to read. So now it's become unPC to even dare to suggest that human babies need their mothers.
It's you your PC ilk who are screwed up.

You wrote, "probably." That's the turd in the punchbowl.