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Re: Music
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:44 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
thedoc wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:35 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:27 pm
thedoc wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:19 pm
I once spoke to a person who explained the difference between "perfect pitch' and "relative pitch". Relative pitch is when you can start on a note that may be slightly off and still keep the whole song in the correct pitch to the starting note. Perfect pitch is when the not has to be correct to the absolute correct pitch or the person knows it is incorrect. I know some people in a musical group and one of them has perfect pitch, the others can start a song on whatever note they settle on but this one person knows that it's wrong but sings along anyhow.
Only a person with perfect pitch could be deaf and sing like that. It's because they can 'hear' the correct notes in their head. That's why Beethoven could compose some of his greatest music after he became deaf. Mozart could compose straight from his head to the manuscript.
You're correct, I didn't intend to say otherwise, a person with "perfect pitch" "hears" the note in their head and tries to match it with what they hear in their ears. The problem comes when the notes don't match but the person with relative pitch doesn't notice the difference.
You were right. You can play any note to a person with perfect pitch and they will know what it is. They can hear a siren and know instantly that it's an F sharp, or a B flat, or a D.... I suppose there must be people who have never learnt music and don't even know they have that ability.
Re: Music
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:58 pm
by Greta
Percussionist Evelyn Glennie explained that the ability to play music as a deaf person comes from being able to feel and interpret the vibrations. What amazes me is that she finds beauty in vibrations just as most people do with sound.
This suggest that we each have a latent innate ability to perceive beauty in music by vibration alone. Beautiful vibrations ... maaan ;) (Sorry, couldn't resist). Also, it seems that we have latent echolocation abilities too.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:38 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
That's all music is--vibrations. It's very mysterious the way it can affect and move us at a fundamental level. Physics would come up with an explanation for it. Strange that some are more affected and moved by it than others. It's no coincidence that many scientists are also musicians. Einstein was an excellent violinist.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:24 am
by thedoc
Greta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:58 pm
This suggest that we each have a latent innate ability to perceive beauty in music by vibration alone. Beautiful vibrations ... maaan
(Sorry, couldn't resist). Also, it seems that we have latent echolocation abilities too.
I heard somewhere that a blind person first "saw" their other person in the rain because they could "hear" the raindrops hitting the other person. I remember being at concerts where I could feel the vibrations of the music inside, not just hearing the music. Perhaps echolocation is only developed when other senses are lacking.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:32 am
by Harbal
thedoc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:24 am
I heard somewhere that a blind person first "saw" their other person in the rain because they could "hear" the raindrops hitting the other person.
Someone should develop a special water pistol for the blind to help them meet more new people.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:12 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:33 am
by Greta
thedoc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:24 am
Greta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:58 pm
This suggest that we each have a latent innate ability to perceive beauty in music by vibration alone. Beautiful vibrations ... maaan
(Sorry, couldn't resist). Also, it seems that we have latent echolocation abilities too.
I heard somewhere that a blind person first "saw" their other person in the rain because they could "hear" the raindrops hitting the other person. I remember being at concerts where I could feel the vibrations of the music inside, not just hearing the music. Perhaps echolocation is only developed when other senses are lacking.
Yes. If you are struggling to perceive your environment then any cue can help "map" it.
It's odd thing, though, perceiving the beauty of timbre, harmony and melody without being able to hear.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:51 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:32 am
thedoc wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:24 am
I heard somewhere that a blind person first "saw" their other person in the rain because they could "hear" the raindrops hitting the other person.
Someone should develop a special water pistol for the blind to help them meet more new people.
Be careful Harb. If you get VT by accident, she'd accuse you of being more violent than the US.
PhilX
Re: Music
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 pm
by Walker
Re: Music
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:52 am
by Walker
Re: Music
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:33 am
by attofishpi
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:59 am
by attofishpi
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:25 pm
by thedoc
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:36 pm
by thedoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETveS23djXM
I was listening to this piece, the whole thing, long before the movie came out.
Re: Music
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:11 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
Could this be the most moving piece of music ever written? Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's the only rendition I could find with the oboe (my favourite orchestral instrument) solo. It would be equally suitable for a wedding or a funeral. I remember they played it at princess Diana's funeral.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPdTEtRV5v0