C:Yes of course to show how ridiculous it was to say that one abortion is the same as 25. That is a sound comparison.
AS: I never said it was the same...you did. All I asked you to do was explain to me the difference without using the shallow aesthetic as a scapegoat for your emotions. Are you even capable of doing that? If abortion is wrong 25 times ...why is it not wrong once? Can you answer that without resorting to a shallow answer based only in the aesthetics?
Your answer thus far is akin to "because when it is just once I can look away and my sensitivities are not compromised. When it is 25 times, I can't seem to ignore it." My point is.. if you allow 25 women to have an abortion once...it's still 25 abortions. What difference does it make if it is 25 abortions from 25 women or 25 abortions from one woman or a thousand and one abortion a year from an undisclosed amount of women? A life is a life is a life. It is still murder in the eyes of some people. And for some people it is not. What makes your declaration that one abortion is fine but 25 is not? Why is your opinion worth more than any other pro choice or pro life person? Your argument is weak because it boils down to aesthetics and nothing more. Please do not respond if you can't come up with a better argument. You are boring me.
C:ANyone can make a mistake. You are falling down on the idiotic one os the same as many. That is bullshit!
AS: Yes anyone can. And if they can make one mistake, they can make 25. Who made you judge to decide when and if someone is making a mistake?
C:The fact is that our opinions make a difference in the UK, and are used to formulate LAWS. So, where you might sit in your ivory tower and wash your hands saying it's nothing to do with me if you want, I think such laws and ethical formulations are of great concern. But you are contradicting yourself, as usual, when you say on the one hand it has nothing to do with you and yet you can demand that a certain point is reached when it is your concern - the moment you have decided that the Foetus has become a 'human'.
AS: There is no point I make such a decision. I don't know when a life becomes a life...just as none of us can know. We can only give opinions. What I am suggesting is a compromise. You seem to be suggesting that we set a quota as to how many abortions a woman can have. How idiotic! So if she meets her quota and gets pregnant she must have the baby, even though she was told on the 25 time she could die? Even if she was raped on the 25 time?
what you are really saying is that you 'feel' abortion is wrong but you can't admit to it so you will "allow" women to have one out of the kindness of your heart.
AS:Of course women are going to be upset, they know what they are aborting could become a child one day. That has nothing to do with the legality of an issue nor whether or not an issue is morally or ethically wrong.
C:It has everything to do with it. If an abortion could be done without emotion it would not attract ANY moral, ethical or legal interest. Human passion is at the heart of all human activity and thought.
AS: Passion is an aesthetic value judgement. Don't you get it? What makes your passionate value judgment more important than anothers? Values change and then change back again throughout the course of history. They are shallow. Passion made Hitler come up with good reasons why he must kill the Jews for a better world. When I hear you say it's okay for a mom to abort one but it is not okay for her to abort 25, I think of the people who seemed to have said, "It is okay for Hitler to kill a few Jews,( I will look away for the betterment of mankind ) but it is not okay to kill millions."
It is shallow thinking.