Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling?
They're the same except for intent, and intent makes all the difference.
The intent of trolling is derailment.
The intent of philosophy is truth.
They're the same except for intent, and intent makes all the difference.
The intent of trolling is derailment.
The intent of philosophy is truth.
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Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
and just intended to generate that response only. IOW they aren't interested in the topic, they are using the topic to get people riled up.commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:04 pmGood answer.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:30 amcould you explain what you mean?
At this level of vagueness, I'd say: it depends.
A troll writes short provocative posts intended to generate a response, like I did in the OP. Make of it what you like.
I guess I don't see all philosophical enquiry OPs as doing this. But I get that perhaps you did actually mean enquiry and not inquiry and the OP was self-referential.
I think one can get the ball rolling with a general vague-ish question and not be trolling, since trolling implies things about your intentions. I don't think it's a great way to start a thread, and some forums even demand that you put something of your own position out there.
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Philosophical enquiry can be a form of trolling for some people. I agree that Age is the only obvious troll on this forum currently, often bombarding threads and posters with mountains of nonsense claims and questions gushing forth as some sort of fantasy know-it-all glory for himself based on the delusions he seems mired in. It's surprising that he has not been banned from this forum, like any other excessive troll/spammer.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:21 amOnly when its an idiot such as Age trashing threads with pure drivel.
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Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Plato was walking over a river and half way across, he looked down and asked "Are you hiding under the bridge Socrates?"
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Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
"age" IS the ONLY one, REALLY?Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:29 pmPhilosophical enquiry can be a form of trolling for some people. I agree that Age is the only obvious troll on this forum currently,attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:21 amOnly when its an idiot such as Age trashing threads with pure drivel.
Also, what IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR here IS that the word 'troll' here MEANS VERY DIFFERENT 'things', TO DIFFERENT 'people'.
Just like the word 'woke' ALSO DOES.
And, by the way, I think it WILL BE FOUND that I have been the ONLY one who somewhat defined the word 'troll' here, BEFORE I SAID and CLAIMED what I DID here. Which was JUST, more or less, that 'philosophical inquiry' can be a form of trolling for SOME people. I ALSO went out of my way to EXPLAIN the REASONS for MY CLAIM/S. UNLIKE what the "others" have done here.
But 'you' NEVER 'gush forth' your UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS and BELIEFS, BASED UPON the DELUSIONS that you seem MIRED IN, right "lacewing"?
So, this is the TYPE of 'arguing' here.
P1. I AGREE and/or BELIEVE that "age" is the ONLY, obvious, troll, on this forum, currently.
P2. I BELIEVE "age" just BOMBARDS 'us' with NONSENSE claims, and NONSENSE questions.
P3. I BELIEVE "age" believes that 'it' is some sort of know-it-all, based upon DELUSIONS that "age" is STUCK IN.
C. I am SURPRISED that "age" has NOT been BANNED.
"lacewing" do 'you' HAVE THE COURAGE to back up and support ANY of these, OBVIOUSLY, OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS and PREMISES of YOURS here WITH ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing', OF ANY ACTUAL SUBSTANCE?
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Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Only obvious troll. Obvious is a key word in that sentence.
I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.Also, what IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR here IS that the word 'troll' here MEANS VERY DIFFERENT 'things', TO DIFFERENT 'people'.
But my working assumption is that you are ingenuous rather than the opposite.
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Can anyone suggest a better word for the visual of someone who seeks out or follows behind people, hoping to gather random crumbs of phrasing he can string together nonsensically into a necklace that he then wears to further exemplify his delusion of superior being?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pmOnly obvious troll. Obvious is a key word in that sentence.
I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.Also, what IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR here IS that the word 'troll' here MEANS VERY DIFFERENT 'things', TO DIFFERENT 'people'.
But my working assumption is that you are ingenuous rather than the opposite.
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You know he will misinterpret that as a compliment.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pm I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.
He's not a troll, he's simply a scrambled egg brain that spends most of his life annoying people.
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He's preparing us for that future where we know exactly what everyone means all the time.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:11 pmYou know he will misinterpret that as a compliment.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pm I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.
He's not a troll, he's simply a scrambled egg brain that spends most of his life annoying people.
People won't even jaywalk, then.
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Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Energy vampireLacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:08 pm Can anyone suggest a better word for the visual of someone who seeks out or follows behind people, hoping to gather random crumbs of phrasing he can string together nonsensically into a necklace that he then wears to further exemplify his delusion of superior being?
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
The True DELUSION here IS this one's ASSUMPTION or BELIEF, which can be CLEARLY SEEN IN the words 'his delusion of superior'.Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:08 pmCan anyone suggest a better word for the visual of someone who seeks out or follows behind people, hoping to gather random crumbs of phrasing he can string together nonsensically into a necklace that he then wears to further exemplify his delusion of superior being?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pmOnly obvious troll. Obvious is a key word in that sentence.
I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.Also, what IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR here IS that the word 'troll' here MEANS VERY DIFFERENT 'things', TO DIFFERENT 'people'.
But my working assumption is that you are ingenuous rather than the opposite.
There is NOT even A THOUGHT of superiority here, let alone some BELIEF nor PRESUMPTION here, on my part.
In fact it has been 'me' who HAS BEEN ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGING and ADMITTING that 'i' intellectually WOULD BE and AM the MOST INFERIOR one here, in this forum.
Just because I may well KNOW some 'things', which "others" have YET TO, CERTAINLY does NOT make 'me' in ANYWAY superior. The ONLY 'thing' that 'me' KNOWING some 'things', which "others" do I YET, is DIFFERENT, ONLY.
SLSO, the WAY I LOOK AT and SEE 'things' DIFFERENTLY FROM 'you', people, ALSO does NOT MAKE 'me' superior NEITHER, The WAY I 'operate', AGAIN, just MAKES 'me' DIFFERENT, ALONE.
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
SEE HOW 'these people' WOULD, BACK THEN:attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:11 pmYou know he will misinterpret that as a compliment.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pm I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.
1. KEEP PRESUMING 'things' WITHOUT EVER SEEKING OUT and OBTAINING ACTUAL CLARIFICATION FIRST.
2. KEEP USING words as though their OWN, personal, DEFINITION/MEANING ALIGNS WITH "another's" OWN, personal, DEFINITION/MEANING, WITHOUT EVER having A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW the "other" is ACTUALLY DEFINING 'that word' NOW WITHOUT DISCUSSING ABOUT WHAT the "other" IS ACTUALLY SAYING, and MEANING.
Now, if ANY one would LIKE to Truly KNOW IF I MISINTERPRETED ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' here, or NOT, then, BY ALL MEANS, LET 'us' HAVE A DISCUSSION.
After all, IF A DISCUSSION WAS TO TAKE PLACE, then what MIGHT BE FOUND IS that it was ACTUALLY "attofishpi" here who was the one who ACTUALLY MISINTERPRETED 'things' here.
'I' ONLY have THE POWER TO so-call 'annoy' people like 'you', "attofishpi", BECAUSE people like 'you' GET ANNOYED WHEN I POINT OUT and SHOW 'your' CONTRADICTIONS, INCONSISTENCIES, and/or just False AND Wrong CLAIMS.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:11 pm He's not a troll, he's simply a scrambled egg brain that spends most of his life annoying people.
Like I have BEEN DOING. Which 'you' OBVIOUSLY could NOT COUNTER NOR REFUTE. Which HAS LEFT 'you' ANNOYED, CLEARLY.
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
I have JUST SHOWN and EXPLAINED HOW 'this' CAN and WOULD TAKE PLACE.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:42 pmHe's preparing us for that future where we know exactly what everyone means all the time.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:11 pmYou know he will misinterpret that as a compliment.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pm I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.
He's not a troll, he's simply a scrambled egg brain that spends most of his life annoying people.
I have NEVER even THOUGHT, nor even SUGGESTED, let alone SAID nor CLAIMED, that there is some place/time where 'we' KNOW, EXACTLY, what EVERY one MEANS, ALL the time.
So, WHY 'you' would MAKE 'this' PRESUMPTION and CLAIM here, ONLY 'you', REALLY, KNOW "iwannaplato".
WILL 'you' EXPLAIN TO 'us' the reason/s WHY 'you' MADE this VERY CLEARLY False AND Wrong CLAIM here "iwannaplato"?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Well 'this' is an even STRANGER, MORE RIDICULOUS, and ALSO False AND Wrong PRESUMPTION and CLAIM here now.
WHY do 'you' CONTINUALLY MAKE 'these False AND Wrong' ACCUSATIONS and CLAIMS?
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
Now, BACK TO the opening post.
I have ALREADY CLAIMED, and EXPLAINED WHY;
SOME 'philosophical inquiry' is very much done in the 'form of trolling', but then sometimes 'it' IS NOT done with 'trolling' intended AT ALL.
NO one has been ABLE TO REFUTE what I have SAID and WRITTEN here. And, I WAIT to be QUESTIONED and/or CHALLENGED OVER 'this'.
In the meantime, some people have SHOWN that they PREFER to LOOK AT 'me', JUDGE 'me', and/or just KEEP talking ABOUT 'me', INSTEAD.
I have ALREADY CLAIMED, and EXPLAINED WHY;
SOME 'philosophical inquiry' is very much done in the 'form of trolling', but then sometimes 'it' IS NOT done with 'trolling' intended AT ALL.
NO one has been ABLE TO REFUTE what I have SAID and WRITTEN here. And, I WAIT to be QUESTIONED and/or CHALLENGED OVER 'this'.
In the meantime, some people have SHOWN that they PREFER to LOOK AT 'me', JUDGE 'me', and/or just KEEP talking ABOUT 'me', INSTEAD.
Re: Is philosophical enquiry a form of trolling
One who just LIKES to CLEAN UP the MESS that "others" LEAVE BEHIND 'them'.Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:08 pmCan anyone suggest a better word for the visual of someone who seeks out or follows behind people,Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:46 pmOnly obvious troll. Obvious is a key word in that sentence.
I agree. I doubt you are a troll. However, if you are a troll, you are a very, very skilled troll.Also, what IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR here IS that the word 'troll' here MEANS VERY DIFFERENT 'things', TO DIFFERENT 'people'.
But my working assumption is that you are ingenuous rather than the opposite.
1. hoping to gather random crumbs of phrasing
Therefore, 'Cleaner' is A SUGGESTION for A BETTER 'word'.
What APPEARS TO BE 'the case', AT FIRST GLANCE, is NEVER necessarily what 'it' SEEMS TO BE.
What 'this', literally, and ACTUALLY, MEANS IS if some 'thing' APPEARS or SEEMS TO BE 'nonsensical' on FIRST APPEARANCE, then, ONLY through a DEEPER LOOKING INTO and some form of OPEN and Honest DISCUSSION, or REFLECTION, can the ACTUAL Truth COME-TO-LIGHT, and BE REVEALED.
Just SAYING and/or CLAIMING that 'that' IS NONSENSICAL, WITHOUT EVER ACTUALLY PROVIDING what 'that' IS, EXACTLY, IS one of the GREATEST and HIGHEST FORMS of DECEPTION, ATTEMPTING TO DECEIVE, and/or Dishonesty.
What the REAL and True DELUSION here IS 'this one' BELIEVING that 'I' think or believe that 'I' AM of superior being.
AND, I WILL EXPLAIN, AGAIN, WHY 'this DELUSION', which 'this one' HOLDS TO BE TRUE, KEEPS EXISTING; it IS BECAUSE of the BELIEFS that 'this one' HOLDS ONTO, MAINTAINS, and is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY FIXED ON-TO and FIXATED UP-ON.