All people cannot be changed by love and affection, if that is the case what is the need of police and court in this world. Love and affection can change certain people. God also wish that one shall abstain from sins due to love to Him and not due to fear to Him. That is His wish.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:04 pmBut that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you think the only reason people avoid doing bad things is fear of God. Can you not see that that is a very dark view of humans. We have empathy and it's built into us, even if some people because of damage don't act that way. What your belief system allows for is good behavior based on fear of punishment. That is not a belief system that allows for good people. It's people who are afraid to do what (you think)they want.
The end goal of pravrutti(wordly life) is to bring down the strength of worldly bonds (with family and wealth) to the minimum level so that the sins (like illegal sex and corruption of money) are not done due to over-attraction to the worldly bonds. The end goal of Nivrutti is to reach the climax in the strength of single bond with God so that all the worldly bonds totally disappear. The goal of pravrutti can be reached in two ways:
1) Path of fear: Avoiding sins due to the fear for hell there and due to fear for God here also. Intensive sins are punished by God in this world and in this present birth itself. Other sins are punished by God in the hell after death. In this path, control in doing sins is obtained through fear only.
2) Path of devotion: Sins are avoided only due to devotion to God. Sins are not done because God is displeased. Since God is loved, the sins are avoided since we do not like to displease God whom we love so much.
By any one of the above two paths, the end goal of pravrutti (controlling sins) can be reached. But, if you are in the first path of fear, you cannot enter Nivrutti, the second stage after coming to the end of pravrutti. Hence, you do not have chance for Nivrutti in which God takes care of your entire protection like the mother cat carrying its child by mouth grip (marjala kishora nyaya).
After achieving the goal of pravrutti, you have to stand on your efforts only. If you slip anywhere, at any time, from the path of justice, you will be punished as per the divine rule. You have to stand by the grip of your effort only with continuous caution like the child of monkey catching the womb of its mother during journey (markata kishora nyaya). But, if you reach the goal of pravrutti by the second path of devotion, you can enter Nivrutti with the same devotion, which is strengthened more and more in the phase of Nivrutti.
Devotion during the journey in pravrutti is like a passenger train whereas the same devotion train becomes express in Nivrutti (like Simhadri train is passenger from Guntur to Vijayawada and becomes express from Vijayawada to Vizag). In the path of devotion, there is no need of any change since it is a direct train travelling in both pravrutti and Nivrutti (same train from Guntur to Vijayawada). If you have reached the goal of pravrutti by the path of fear, you have to change the train and catch the path of advanced devotion running like express train.
Therefore, if you control the sins due to devotion on God and not due to fear for God in pravrutti, it is the best and very convenient journey by a single train starting from the beginning of pravrutti up to the end of Nivrutti. However, reaching the goal of pravrutti is very important from the point of peace and balance of the world created by God.
Any owner of an industry always wishes that his industry should run peacefully without any disturbance. Thus, the goal of pravrutti is the foremost aim of God. God in any human form appearing at any region of the Earth necessarily preaches the achievement of the goal of pravrutti to all the humanity without any exception. An employee pleasing the owner of industry personally is not mandatory to every soul (employee) and hence, Nivrutti is only secondary.
Pravrutti is forced on every human being in this world whereas Nivrutti is forced on God by a few devotees only. Hence, you must start the journey by single train of devotion, which is the best way to reach the end goal of Nivrutti. Elders say that one should have either fear (bhaya) or devotion (bhakti) to achieve some immediate goal, but, devotion is far better than fear. An atheist has neither fear nor devotion and will be responsible for the total destruction of humanity through his/her foolish and ignorant concept of atheism.