Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:51 am
What is being pointed to in my writings though is ...SOURCE
SOURCE is an idea.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:51 am
ultimately nothing is known except what knowledge informs.
Knowledge and knowing are ideas.
That's right, there is here only ideas..what is an idea?...I have no idea.
Knowledge informs the illusory nature of reality, there is no entity/thing here knowing...any knowing is apparent...what is knowing? I don't know.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 am"Informing" is an idea. There is no reason to think that anything is informing anything.
To think that any thing is informing anything is itself another thought, it's an idea....what is an idea? I have no idea.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 amAll of these are very limited human concepts, no matter how extraordinary we try to make them sound.
Yes, they are all concepts/ideas/beliefs....a concept is an illusion of sound heard as words with meaning that nothing is making happen. When the word is uttered I am talking....I am believing, I have an idea...that I am...is also an idea. What is an idea? I have no idea.
I AM ..is...but I do not know what or who I am except what I imagine, make up as an idea. I have no image of myself except what I project onto myself.
This is what is meant by SOURCE... source can only ever be a first person singular pronoun. . . what appears to that first person singular pronoun is what creates that first person in the same instant...else there is NOTHING HERE..knower and known are one in the same intantaneous moment...aka not-knowing consciousness. Aka The mirror reflecting / projecting / conceiving only itself.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 am Human concepts surely do not describe that which is beyond human concepts...
Human is a concept known, a known concept knows nothing. Human is a known concept. That which is known knows nothing, human is an idea, what is an idea? I have no idea. Where and to whom this idea is arising ? I have no idea except what I aka (not-knowing knowing known) conceive, via concept/knowledge, the knowing.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 amand there surely must be MUCH that is beyond limited human concepts.
There is nothing beyond a concept, nothing beyond knowledge or language. It's concepts all the way down.
As soon as the imagination tries to cross the horizon it will take it's concepts with it, where ever you go there you are...what are you? I have no idea except in this conception, what I conceive myself to be.
You can never cross the horizon, because there isn't one. There is only herenow, nowhere everywhere and nowhere, that never moved an inch.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 amTo claim to know what is beyond human concepts, seems like just another religious way of elevating some people to godly/supreme positions -- an agenda, ripe with ego and need...there's no reason to do it otherwise.
No one is ever claiming they know, there is no thing knowing anything, if you say you know, you don't.
The known is known by not-knowing. All knowing is not knowing knowing. First person singular pronoun, in other words, one unitary action.
There is no thing doing anything including having this discussion, it's just no one doing. Nothing is making this discussion about discussion unfold.
No one is speaking or doing anything. There is no one reasoning for anything and yet reasoning apparently appears, but no one is reasoning or doing anything...yet it appears so.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:27 amIt doesn't matter. It has not been demonstrated to provide any more clarity or success for the claimant. It's just more of the same human noise.
Yes, in a nutshell, you are right because there is no claimer here, except the concept, the idea, the belief.
No claim, no blame, no shame.
It is what is it, this is it...what is it...I have no idea except what I make up, believe as imagined...
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Clarity is just moving beyond the belief structure imposed upon you by other that you exist here and they exist over there..you move from that belief to the realisation there is no other here, there is only what I HERE project ''out there''...there is just nothing and everything...same ONE.
It's dying before you die...are you willing to die right now LW?
If not, then you'll just continue to make a noise just to ATTRACT your own attention...woof woof!!
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