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bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:02 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:55 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:45 pm
I'm sorry, but disrespecting the national anthem does in fact affect their job performance in providing the total entertainment value that fans are paying for via ticket purchases or watching on TV through advertising dollars spent on their behalf. Team ownership does not give players free advertising to promote their political viewpoints to the world.

Do you have any studies to back you up?

PhilX

Please, are you actually suggesting some kind of study is needed to show that team ownership does not give players free advertising to promote their political viewpoints to the world?

Yes, a study is needed to show how team performance is affected and to what extent.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:42 pm

Oh traitorous Bob, while we're on this topic, do you kneel when pledging allegiance to the flag? Aren't you the one who keeps saying you want to see one of our states secede?

PhilX

People who pledge allegiance to flags are idiots.

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

I have never, nor will I ever, pledge allegiance to any flag, including the AEP!

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:07 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm
People who pledge allegiance to flags are idiots.

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

I have never, nor will I ever, pledge allegiance to any flag, including the AEP!

This makes you a hypocrite regarding kneeling to the US flag.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:04 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:02 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:55 pm

Do you have any studies to back you up?

PhilX

Please, are you actually suggesting some kind of study is needed to show that team ownership does not give players free advertising to promote their political viewpoints to the world?

Yes, a study is needed to show how team performance is affected and to what extent.

PhilX

Team performance has nothing to do with it. If team ownership feels that one or more of its employees are causing a problem of any kind for the team, as Donald Trump would say, "YOU'RE FIRED!"

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:11 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:07 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

I have never, nor will I ever, pledge allegiance to any flag, including the AEP!

This makes you a hypocrite regarding kneeling to the US flag.

PhilX

Please, I'm talking about an adverse effect a player's actions can have on the operations of the team, including profitability.

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:12 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:04 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:02 pm
Please, are you actually suggesting some kind of study is needed to show that team ownership does not give players free advertising to promote their political viewpoints to the world?

Yes, a study is needed to show how team performance is affected and to what extent.

PhilX

Team performance has nothing to do with it. If team ownership feels that one or more of its employees are causing a problem of any kind for the team, as Donald Trump would say, "YOU'RE FIRED!"

Since team performance is related to the bottom line, it has everything to do with it.

PhilX

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:51 pm Please, NFL teams do not exist to give players an international stage for promoting their personal and political beliefs at absolutely no cost to them whatsoever.

Not what I'm talking about

PhilX

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:58 pm Exactly what the hell are you talking about?

Figure it out.

PhilX

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:19 pm Hell, even you can't figure it out dum-dum!

Nah, you're the dum-dum, dum-dum.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:42 pm

Oh traitorous Bob, while we're on this topic, do you kneel when pledging allegiance to the flag? Aren't you the one who keeps saying you want to see one of our states secede?

PhilX

People who pledge allegiance to flags are idiots.

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

Silly brain-washed turd with your stupid and juvenile rag smiley. Only a yank would do that. Y'all just have no class

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

bobevenson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:51 pm
People who pledge allegiance to flags are idiots.

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

Silly brain-washed turd with your stupid and juvenile rag smiley. Only a yank would do that. Y'all just have no class

More class than you'll ever know, you stupid Aussie.

PhilX

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:39 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:59 pm

Once again Bob, have you ever pledged allegiance to the flag?

PhilX

Silly brain-washed turd with your stupid and juvenile rag smiley. Only a yank would do that. Y'all just have no class

More class than you'll ever know, you stupid Aussie.

PhilX

Oh yeah. That tiny dot of a country You sad little person. And what if was made to worship a rag? Aren't y'all? It's disgusting child abuse anyway. Children couldn't possibly understand that bullshit.