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Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Age wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:24 am
'you' resonate "deeply" because 'you' two listen to, and want to belong to, the same religious teachings.

And you saying that means you are so unbelievably ''THICK'' that it's not even funny anymore, I've just died laughing.

You really need to tone it down and get into the subtle groove.

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Age wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:57 am I stand by THOSE WORDS and can back them up FULLY.
Then why back them up if you already know they are your words.

Listen, some of us here are just not interested in your incessant back and forth, two and fro game playing exercises.

Some of us do not want to play your game of ENTANGLEMENT ..that you are so hopelessy addicted to playing. Why can't you just see that.

You are just coming across as the most serial internet troll that ever graced this WiFi reality.

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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 am Will 5G be the weapon of our own making that brings about our own extinction,


No.
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 amand did we subconsciously want this extinction?
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Definitely No.

But finally you have raised a topic that needs to be discussed - i've been away for a while and am tad busy to read the posts...BUT YEAH 5G is disgusting.

I watched an ex engineer from the UK navy talk about how bad eletromagnetic radiation is for female eggs - the guy, now retired stated clearly, this WIFI shit should not be in schools and around the home.

5G is seriously taking the piss and the eggs with it.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:31 am
Age wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:57 amAlso, WHY do 'you' want me to "go away"?
Because you keep on repeating information via talking to me about what I already KNOW.


It's just annoying. There's just no room in me for two of us. So why can't you just understand and respect that.

Now, go away.

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So, 'you' already KNOW that 'I' am God, and 'you' already KNOW that some of what 'you' keep saying is INCORRECT, correct?
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:33 am
Age wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:24 am
'you' resonate "deeply" because 'you' two listen to, and want to belong to, the same religious teachings.

And you saying that means you are so unbelievably ''THICK'' that it's not even funny anymore, I've just died laughing.

You really need to tone it down and get into the subtle groove.

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Okay.
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Why will 5G produce A.I. when 3G and 4G haven't?
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 am
Age wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:57 am I stand by THOSE WORDS and can back them up FULLY.
Then why back them up if you already know they are your words.
How could 'you' take this SO OUT OF CONTEXT?

I am NOT saying that I can back up that they are MY WORDS.

What I MEAN IS; I can back up and support the CLAIMS I MAKE/MY WORDS.

Can 'you' now SEE the difference?
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 amListen, some of us here are just not interested in your incessant back and forth, two and fro game playing exercises.
Well those ones will OBVIOUSLY just ignore what I say.

And, OBVIOUSLY, those who are interested WILL KEEP READING, with INTEREST.
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 amSome of us do not want to play your game of ENTANGLEMENT
Yet here 'you', the little insignificant human being, IS, FULLY ENTANGLED IN THIS.

I have OBVIOUSLY already completely ENTANGLED 'you'.
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 am..that you are so hopelessy addicted to playing. Why can't you just see that.
What do 'you' BELIEVE I am playing.

I have told 'you' what I am doing here, in this forum. Did 'you' FORGET this, or do 'you' just IGNORE this, or do 'you' just DISBELIEVE this?
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 amYou are just coming across as the most serial internet troll that ever graced this WiFi reality.

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Wow REALLY?

Is this "MOST SERIAL INTERNET TROLL" recognition BECAUSE 'you', and "others", can NOT back up and support what 'you' CLAIM, with the OPEN clarifying questions that I ask you, or for some other reason?

If the latter, then what reason/s is that EXACTLY?

Let us SEE if 'you' can at least answer this clarifying question.
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roydop wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:40 pm
"It has been stated that the thing to do to realize Self/Reality is to focus attention inward onto/as Stillness."

But how does just doing this REVEAL any thing?

'REALIZATION' appears on 'thought', and obviously NOT on its own. Therefore, to 'REALIZE' Self/Reality, then thought and thinking is NEEDED.

One maybe Still, or in Stillness, but only when there is thought does REALIZATION appear.
This makes it entirely clear that you are still trapped within the labyrinth of thought. The fact that you are unable to remain in/as thought free Awareness for more than a few seconds, along with the belief that thought is Truth indicates "where you are" Spiritually.

THIS IS MY LAST TIME RESPONDING TO YOU so commenting on any of my posts expecting a response is a waste of energy.

To see what is being revealed to you, you must delve deeply into the space between thoughts. Until you are able to rise above the labyrinth of delusion that has been, and continues to be, constructed by mind, you will not see Reality.
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roydop wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 pm roydop wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:40 pm
"It has been stated that the thing to do to realize Self/Reality is to focus attention inward onto/as Stillness."

But how does just doing this REVEAL any thing?

'REALIZATION' appears on 'thought', and obviously NOT on its own. Therefore, to 'REALIZE' Self/Reality, then thought and thinking is NEEDED.

One maybe Still, or in Stillness, but only when there is thought does REALIZATION appear.
This makes it entirely clear that you are still trapped within the labyrinth of thought.
NO it does NOT.

EXPLAIN how there can be REALIZATION in STILLNESS?

When 'you' can do this, then this will SHOW that 'you' are somewhat able to elaborate on any thing you say. Until then all 'you' can is repeat what 'you' are told, like a good religious follower, and all 'you' are doing is just MISINTERPRETING and MISUNDERSTANDING my words.

OBVIOUSLY, because of the nature of thought itself, realization can NOT happen out of thought.
roydop wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 pmThe fact that you are unable to remain in/as thought free Awareness for more than a few seconds, along with the belief that thought is Truth indicates "where you are" Spiritually.
This PROVES that 'you' are completely incapable of hearing and/or understanding what I say.

I do not have a belief. Each time 'you' say I do, then each of those times PROVE that 'you' are incapable of hearing and/or understanding what I say.

I have STATED many times that thought is NOT Truth. Truth is NOT in thought. You are so far off UNDERSTANDING me I am NOT sure that 'you' will ever UNDERSTAND. Are you AWARE that 'you' are STATING that I am saying, the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I actually say AND write? This can be PROVEN True by LOOKING AT my writings.

Also, 'you' BELIEVING that 'you' can remain in "thought free Awareness" longer than "another" can, that that then somehow makes 'you' FAR MORE SUPERIOR Spiritually then "another" is, means that 'you' are under an absolute illusion of thee Truth, Itself.

'you' keep implying that being in "thought free Awareness" that things become KNOWN. Yet here I am asking 'you' to clarify HOW this could even be POSSIBLE, YET there 'you' are completely INCAPABLE of explaining any thing regarding this. 'you' are FAR LESS Spiritual then 'you' would love to BELIEVE 'you' are.
roydop wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 pmTHIS IS MY LAST TIME RESPONDING TO YOU so commenting on any of my posts expecting a response is a waste of energy.
BUT I HAVE NEVER EXPECTED any thing, so commenting on your posts, or any one "elses", is NEVER done expecting a response. In fact, some times when 'you' do NOT respond says and reveals FAR MORE about how little 'you' REALLY know about what you allege 'you' know.

Besides the FACT that 'energy' can NOT be wasted anyway, how do 'you' propose commenting, itself, is a "waste of energy"?

Besides the fact that my comments are just CLEARING up the confused and distorted thinking under the label "roydop", my comments derive from NO energy at all anyway.
roydop wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 pmTo see what is being revealed to you, you must delve deeply into the space between thoughts. Until you are able to rise above the labyrinth of delusion that has been, and continues to be, constructed by mind, you will not see Reality.
Yet I am the One who can EXPLAIN HOW ALL-OF-THIS can be done and how ALL of it occurs, while 'you' are completely incapable of explain any of this at all. ALL 'you' can do is repeat 'that' what 'you' have been taught, which is; being in 'thought free Awareness', then 'you' WILL realize Reality.

Besides being so easily to DISPROVE, PROVING what IS actual True and Real can be done also so easily. But only to those who WANT to learn and KNOW It. ones like 'you', "roydop" are completely incapable of learning and KNOWING the REAL Truth, because, at this moment when this is written, 'you' ARE completely CLOSED OFF from thee Truth of things.
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"you are creating a problem and then projecting it to roy as if it was his when it's NOT"

Nope. I'm using Roy's own words to show that he indeed has at least one problem. It bothers him that folks like me dismiss him. If it weren't a problem he wouldn't have mentioned it. But he did mention it, it is a problem for him, so he's either mistaken or just lyin' when he sez he has no problems.
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Arising_uk wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:52 pm Why will 5G produce A.I. when 3G and 4G haven't?
It won't. The Robot Overlords are here but A.I. will never happen (and, if it does, it won't be becuz porn downloads faster).
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roydop wrote:
I offer an exercise that will show directly that humans cannot stop thinking for more than a few seconds and then point out that this uncontrollable mind might just be the source of all their problems . I even back up that theory ( training to focus on the space between thoughts rather than the thoughts ) with proof from my own experience - yes it works I have no problems in life and experience perfect contentment / absolute happiness
I like the idea of trying to focus on the space between thoughts . I have found that having a sense of detachment is the best way to achieve peace of mind even though it is not absolute . So being more of an observer rather than a participant in other words . Also I am only passing through this life so it is not permanent so becoming too attached to it is for me not a good thing to do . Death is far as I know the final destination for all of us and once we are all dead then all of our attachments will have counted for absolutely nothing . Therefore I try to be as detached as I possibly can and not waste mental energy on things that either do not affect me and / or have no ideal solution to them anyway
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roydop wrote:
I have no problems in life and experience perfect contentment / absolute happiness
I actually make a distinction between these two states . I think happiness is in the moment and can never be absolute whereas contentment can be sustained because it is a general state of mind that can accommodate the bad as well as the good . So I am not overall happy but I am though content and that is the state of mind I seek because it is for me the more practical and possible of the two
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Age wrote:
roydop wrote:
To see what is being revealed to you you must delve deeply into the space between thoughts
Until you are able to rise above the labyrinth of delusion that has been and continues to be constructed by mind you will not see Reality
I am the One who can EXPLAIN HOW ALL OF THIS can be done and how ALL of it occurs while you are completely incapable of explain any of this
ALL you can do is repeat that what you have been taught which is being in thought free Awareness then you WILL realize Reality
I am interested in you explaining how it can be done from your perspective
What specifically does one have to do in order to be able to realise Reality
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Age wrote:
PROVING what IS actual True and Real can be done also so easily But only to those who WANT to learn and KNOW
What is actually true and real and why is it so easy to prove from your perspective
I do want to learn and know so can you explain it to me then as simply as possible
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