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Your inability to reason a priori and a posteriori evidence is far more amazing a phenomenon.
I agree, but why are you changing the topic from vaccination to "who-knows-what that has no effect and can ONLY do damage!"?
If you want to get down to the real nitty-gritty on this, PRETEND that the conspiracy is nonsense and see what you have left.
Would it be fair to say that the control group, if there had been one, was ethically discontinued rather than intentionally contaminated?Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:05 pmIt’s conspiracy-speak.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:59 pmWondering. How was a control group intentionally contaminated?
The effectiveness results were so obvious that it became effectively unethical to intentionally withhold the vaccine from the control group.
It's describing one and the same event, but the conspiratorial agenda needs the emotionally charged language.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:16 pm Would it be fair to say that the control group, if there had been one, was ethically discontinued rather than intentionally contaminated?
Agreed, of course.Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:25 pmIt's describing one and the same event, but the conspiratorial agenda needs the emotionally charged language.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:16 pm Would it be fair to say that the control group, if there had been one, was ethically discontinued rather than intentionally contaminated?
It's how all disinformation works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_ ... ion#Pathos
Right? In your attempt to convince others that the vaccine is dangerous, you are saying that the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are mixed.
I take it then that you analyzed the raw data for yourself and drew your own conclusion even if different than the results posited by the CDC and NIH.
But if you’re going to use a control group, wouldn’t you have to control for age, gender, medical conditions like hypertension and diabetes and so on for a robust number of confounding variables?Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:07 am It's as I already said.
*IF* the vaccines were effective, then those results would be mixed in with the control group, which was contaminated. So people cannot tell the overall effects, now, except between those who were completely unvaccinated, versus those who are vaccinated. And this is seen and observed in all-death-mortality between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. The data currently shows that all-death-mortality is up significantly, across all vaccinated populations, but not unvaccinated populations.
So this means the "cure" was worse than the disease.
Longitudinal studies could identify the long term side effects that you mentioned, but there has not been enough time for that.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:06 pmBy vaccinating the world population without knowing the long-term side-effects, injuries, damage, cancer, cardiovascular disease.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:59 pmWondering. How was a control group intentionally contaminated?
All-death mortality rates essentially prove the vaccines did more damage than the disease.
Unvaccinated humans are healthier than vaccinated.
Wasn’t the control group terminated for intentionally ethical reasons, based on contemporaneous theories?Wizard22 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:06 pmBy vaccinating the world population without knowing the long-term side-effects, injuries, damage, cancer, cardiovascular disease.commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:59 pmWondering. How was a control group intentionally contaminated?
All-death mortality rates essentially prove the vaccines did more damage than the disease.
Unvaccinated humans are healthier than vaccinated.
Isolate all-death-mortality between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:31 pmRight? In your attempt to convince others that the vaccine is dangerous, you are saying that the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are mixed.
How can we tell you which population has a higher mortality rate?
I don't need to. I researched Peter Daszak, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, the Wuhan Laboratory, and the CDC and NIH's connections to all the former. The Globalist-Eugenicists detail what their intentions were and are over 20 years of research... wait, don't tell me, you actually believed the Main-Stream-Media when they, and they still maintain, that SARS-Cov2 came from a "wet market" in China?? Seriously?!commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:39 pmI take it then that you analyzed the raw data for yourself and drew your own conclusion even if different than the results posited by the CDC and NIH.
Yes...unless Big Pharma knew what the vaccines would do, before they released them. Then it doesn't matter, does it?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:44 pmBut if you’re going to use a control group, wouldn’t you have to control for age, gender, medical conditions like hypertension and diabetes and so on for a robust number of confounding variables?
Unless those who spliced SARS-Cov2...AND the vaccines...withheld their 20 years of research and data...from the public.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:48 pmLongitudinal studies could identify the long term side effects that you mentioned, but there has not been enough time for that.
Yes, "ethical reasons", like we need to save the children from this deadly pandemic!?commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:53 pmWasn’t the control group terminated for intentionally ethical reasons, based on contemporaneous theories?
I remember when I didn't believe the "conspiracy theorists" too... looks like you have some rabbit holes to dive into:commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:54 pmI believe you, except Covid was not around 20 years ago.
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