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Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:20 pm
by godelian
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:00 pm
Listen, imbecile. zcash, bitcoin, a good old-fashioned relational database; or even just writing to a text file - you have NO idea what a transaction is.
Hey stupido, this is an example Bitcoin transaction:
{
"result": {
"txid": "6b029135dcbff2c9bba177b3875542c1a5d0c8ffa6f889658b14ff9d97487b0a",
"hash": "b83f126afb106885d60c4cf0bf59bd11276ed1ddd3e024fd389c895f6446597b",
"version": 2,
"size": 249,
"vsize": 168,
"weight": 669,
"locktime": 0,
"vin": [{
"txid": "34ae66b0f51c9cd4bf667b99301a073e0233ff66da43607e2b214653106aea24",
"vout": 1,
"scriptSig": {
"asm": "0014ace8b2a4231527c2901f544deac0f3178a23bc1a",
"hex": "160014ace8b2a4231527c2901f544deac0f3178a23bc1a"
},
"txinwitness": [
"304402207ac235915ec0e199c8e3e7af1d6f1e4dcde9e6d2856447f84e70a8a778a36dbd022051d6ce9f4f643a6c89a3efd445d9d61db8cabe53c323465def66edfa21b5e47201",
"02acea3ff9d52e4dee60b03c0b933aed9d1a7aedc50ca41c6468f6237a38cf6e27"
],
"sequence": 4294967295
}],
"vout": [{
"value": 0.33874,
"n": 0,
"scriptPubKey": {
"asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 5a6a6e57d026f8421ef823d8bcae0807d2205d26 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex": "76a9145a6a6e57d026f8421ef823d8bcae0807d2205d2688ac",
"reqSigs": 1,
"type": "pubkeyhash",
"addresses": [
"19F5KDtN81LGfmMU7ZvCN7kYsMCPvZnccd"
]
}
},
{
"value": 0.859448,
"n": 1,
"scriptPubKey": {
"asm": "OP_HASH160 f7deab017a95f24a46981d10ab8d46e7c3dd313b OP_EQUAL",
"hex": "a914f7deab017a95f24a46981d10ab8d46e7c3dd313b87",
"reqSigs": 1,
"type": "scripthash",
"addresses": [
"3QHdaAmDZxac19PyEKP2LnbpyaG4o8okvb"
]
}
}
]
},
"error": null,
"id": 1
}
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:26 pm
by Skepdick
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:20 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:00 pm
Listen, imbecile. zcash, bitcoin, a good old-fashioned relational database; or even just writing to a text file - you have NO idea what a transaction is.
Hey stupido, this is an example Bitcoin transaction:
{
"result": {
"txid": "6b029135dcbff2c9bba177b3875542c1a5d0c8ffa6f889658b14ff9d97487b0a",
"hash": "b83f126afb106885d60c4cf0bf59bd11276ed1ddd3e024fd389c895f6446597b",
"version": 2,
"size": 249,
"vsize": 168,
"weight": 669,
"locktime": 0,
"vin": [{
"txid": "34ae66b0f51c9cd4bf667b99301a073e0233ff66da43607e2b214653106aea24",
"vout": 1,
"scriptSig": {
"asm": "0014ace8b2a4231527c2901f544deac0f3178a23bc1a",
"hex": "160014ace8b2a4231527c2901f544deac0f3178a23bc1a"
},
"txinwitness": [
"304402207ac235915ec0e199c8e3e7af1d6f1e4dcde9e6d2856447f84e70a8a778a36dbd022051d6ce9f4f643a6c89a3efd445d9d61db8cabe53c323465def66edfa21b5e47201",
"02acea3ff9d52e4dee60b03c0b933aed9d1a7aedc50ca41c6468f6237a38cf6e27"
],
"sequence": 4294967295
}],
"vout": [{
"value": 0.33874,
"n": 0,
"scriptPubKey": {
"asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 5a6a6e57d026f8421ef823d8bcae0807d2205d26 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex": "76a9145a6a6e57d026f8421ef823d8bcae0807d2205d2688ac",
"reqSigs": 1,
"type": "pubkeyhash",
"addresses": [
"19F5KDtN81LGfmMU7ZvCN7kYsMCPvZnccd"
]
}
},
{
"value": 0.859448,
"n": 1,
"scriptPubKey": {
"asm": "OP_HASH160 f7deab017a95f24a46981d10ab8d46e7c3dd313b OP_EQUAL",
"hex": "a914f7deab017a95f24a46981d10ab8d46e7c3dd313b87",
"reqSigs": 1,
"type": "scripthash",
"addresses": [
"3QHdaAmDZxac19PyEKP2LnbpyaG4o8okvb"
]
}
}
]
},
"error": null,
"id": 1
}
Hey, stupido. That's not a transaction.
That is only a JSON representation of a transaction.
Your words. Over and over.
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:36 pm
by godelian
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:26 pm
Hey, stupido. That's not a transaction.
That is only a JSON representation of a transaction.
Your words. Over and over.
How many times do I need to repeat that we can only ever deal with one of the many alternative representations of a piece of information?
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:42 pm
by Skepdick
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:36 pm
How many times do I need to repeat that we can only ever deal with one of the many alternative representations of a piece of information?
Repeat it as many times as you want - I don't care.
I am asking you WHERE the information is. Maybe you want to change your song, who knows?
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:26 am
What is physically sitting in forum's database is itself not a message but a collection of magnetized disk sectors. It is not the message itself.
What is physically sitting on the Bitcoin miners is itself not the information, but a collection of magnetized disk sectors. It's not the information itself.
The information itself is not to be found anywhere on those information processors we call computers.
I can't make this shit up. Dumb is dumb.
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:01 pm
by godelian
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:42 pm
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:36 pm
How many times do I need to repeat that we can only ever deal with one of the many alternative representations of a piece of information?
I am asking you WHERE the information is.
...
I can't make this shit up. Dumb is dumb.
Does it even matter? At some point in February 2018, I used the following script to process Bitcoin transactions in order to claim truckloads of airdrops before they became worthless:
https://github.com/ymgve/bitcoin_fork_claimer
Since then, I still haven't spent all the money that I collected from doing that. It has funded my lifestyle ever since.
It's funny that you write "You don't know what a Bitcoin transaction is". Is that because you have managed to make more money from knowing "what a Bitcoin transaction is" than I have?
Concerning "Dumb is dumb", who are you to say that? What have you got to show for? The proof is always in the pudding, isn't it?
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:20 pm
by Skepdick
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:01 pm
Does it even matter?
Yeah. It does. If all of these symbols are "nothing more than representations" - you can't seem to explain how information moves from A to B.
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:01 pm
It's funny that you write "You don't know what a Bitcoin transaction is". Is that because you have managed to make more money from knowing "what a Bitcoin transaction is" than I have?
Are we thee now? Measuring our wallets/penises? I'm a hodler since 2013.
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:01 pm
Concerning "Dumb is dumb", who are you to say that? What have you got to show for? The proof is always in the pudding, isn't it?
Who do I have to be to say it? I am demonstrating your utter incoherence and your inability to account for why this conversation is even taking place.
If all of these symbols are "nothing more than representations" - how are messages moving from your head into mine; and from my head into yours?
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:27 pm
by promethean75
"stupido is as stupido does" - Florencio Gumpzales
Re: Godel's Argument For God is Not Realistic
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:38 am
by Gary Childress
I suspect Karma is like currency in some ways.
Thoughts?