Anders Breivik and Europe

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKEqM5bi8K4

As I watched the above link it occurred to me 'hey I know a European or two on this forum'.

What does Aetixintro or Arising_uk think of Anders?

Yes yes we all condemn the violence, quite seriously, but let's not waste time on that unless you must.

I think Anders is a culturalist and I certainly think Aetixintro is (I know I am a culturalist as well). How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations? If it is anything like I feel it is infuriating and Australia only gets a few boat people but you guys have nation changing numbers of Muslims now. I'll find a post I made on this massacre on another forum and link it tomorrow just so you know my views and so you don't think I am leaving you hanging.

Anyway I started the thread when I actually thought of Aetixintro as similar to Anders. My apologies Aetixintro for the smear, Anders may be a culturalist but he was a psycho as well from my analysis, but if you can forgive that do you have any empathy for the reasons why or is it really only America you hate. It would be most interesting to know!

Mark Question · **Joined:** Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:20 am **Posts:** 524

Wootah wrote:

How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations? If it is anything like I feel it is infuriating and Australia only gets a few boat people but you guys have nation changing numbers of Muslims now.

do you mean the Duyfken, the privateer Cygnet, HM Bark Endeavour, HMS Supply, The Alexander, Scarborough and Friendship? do you see them as criminals? or did they escaped from motherlands postimperialistic terror and poverty?

Notvacka · **Joined:** Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:37 am **Posts:** 1002

What Anders Behring Breivik showed us, is that when real terror strikes at the heart of a peaceful Scandinavian nation, it's not brought by some Islamist fundamentalist suicide bomber, but it comes in the shape of a blonde, handsome, Norwegian, supposedly Christian, right wing, libertarian, Islamophobic extremist with a gun permit and a deranged plan.

This exceptional attack is consistent with statistics. Here are numbers from Europol tallying terrorist acts in Europe 2009:

Total number: 1770
Islamic: 6 (0.34%)
Right Wing Ethno-Nationalist and Separatist: 1596 (90.17%)
Left Wing: 106 (5.99%)
Other/Not Specified: 62 (3.50%)

Typist · **Joined:** Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:12 am **Posts:** 3330

My suggestion is that given that this guy went on a murder spree very explicitly as the "marketing campaign" for his book, that the best response is to ignore him entirely.

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

Mark Question wrote:

Wootah wrote:

How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations? If it is anything like I feel it is infuriating and Australia only gets a few boat people but you guys have nation changing numbers of Muslims now.

do you mean the Duyfken, the privateer Cygnet, HM Bark Endeavour, HMS Supply, The Alexander, Scarborough and Friendship? do you see them as criminals? or did they escaped from motherlands postimperialistic terror and poverty?

Hi Mark, if China sailed to Australia and just said we are taking over I would only blame ourselves. To the extent that they trade with us reveals to the extent they don't think they can succeed that way yet.

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

Typist wrote:

My suggestion is that given that this guy went on a murder spree very explicitly as the "marketing campaign" for his book, that the best response is to ignore him entirely.

Many argue that ignoring him entirely is what caused the explosive message.

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

Notvacka wrote:

What Anders Behring Breivik showed us, is that when real terror strikes at the heart of a peaceful Scandinavian nation, it's not brought by some Islamist fundamentalist suicide bomber, but it comes in the shape of a blonde, handsome, Norwegian, supposedly Christian, right wing, libertarian, Islamophobic extremist with a gun permit and a deranged plan.

This exceptional attack is consistent with statistics. Here are numbers from Europol tallying terrorist acts in Europe 2009:

Total number: 1770
Islamic: 6 (0.34%)
Right Wing Ethno-Nationalist and Separatist: 1596 (90.17%)
Left Wing: 106 (5.99%)
Other/Not Specified: 62 (3.50%)

https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/def ... at2011.pdf

page 29 - I quote 'No right-wing terrorist attacks occurred in the EU in 2010'

Sorry that was 2010. Do you have a link to the 2009 report?

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

http://www.statewatch.org//news/2009/ap ... t-2009.pdf

The member states did not report any
right-wing terrorist attacks or arrests
related to right-wing terrorism for 2008.
All right-wing activities were reported as
extremism.'

Oh wait that was 2008, where is the 2009 report?

Mark Question · **Joined:** Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:20 am **Posts:** 524

Wootah wrote:

Mark Question wrote:

Wootah wrote:

How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations? If it is anything like I feel it is infuriating and Australia only gets a few boat people but you guys have nation changing numbers of Muslims now.

do you mean the Duyfken, the privateer Cygnet, HM Bark Endeavour, HMS Supply, The Alexander, Scarborough and Friendship? do you see them as criminals? or did they escaped from motherlands postimperialistic terror and poverty?

Hi Mark, if China sailed to Australia and just said we are taking over I would only blame ourselves. To the extent that they trade with us reveals to the extent they don't think they can succeed that way yet.

so, what you think that aboriginals should do now? follow the breivik with guns and explosives? hunt boat peoples youngsters? blow up the government buildings and boat peoples leaders?

Arising_uk · **Joined:** Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:31 am **Posts:** 10543

Mark Question wrote:

... hunt boat peoples youngsters? blow up the government buildings and boat peoples leaders?

No need MQ as Australia has them all penned up in camps upon an island.

Arising_uk · **Joined:** Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:31 am **Posts:** 10543

Wootah wrote:

... To the extent that they trade with us reveals to the extent they don't think they can succeed that way yet.

Given that Australia only has about double the population of London do you seriously think if China wished to invade Australia you could stop them!? Ever thought it's because China is not expansionist in this way, especially since they can just buy the resources.

Wootah · **Joined:** Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am **Posts:** 2453

Mark Question wrote:

so, what you think that aboriginals should do now? follow the breivik with guns and explosives? hunt boat peoples youngsters? blow up the government buildings and boat peoples leaders?

Get jobs and raise a family like the rest of us. Like I would think anyone would do 200 years later.

chaz wyman · **Joined:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:31 pm **Posts:** 10592

Wootah wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKEqM5bi8K4

As I watched the above link it occurred to me 'hey I know a European or two on this forum'.

What does Aetixintro or Arising_uk think of Anders?

Yes yes we all condemn the violence, quite seriously, but let's not waste time on that unless you must.

I think Anders is a culturalist and I certainly think Aetixintro is (I know I am a culturalist as well). How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations? If it is anything like I feel it is infuriating and Australia only gets a few boat people but you guys have nation changing numbers of Muslims now. I'll find a post I made on this massacre on another forum and link it tomorrow just so you know my views and so you don't think I am leaving you hanging.

Anyway I started the thread when I actually thought of Aetixintro as similar to Anders. My apologies Aetixintro for the smear, Anders may be a culturalist but he was a psycho as well from my analysis, but if you can forgive that do you have any empathy for the reasons why or is it really only America you hate. It would be most interesting to know!

I think you are stretching credibility and definition too far to call AB a 'culturalist'.

"How does it feel seeing your country and way of life being washed away by the relativist absurdist views of your nations?"

If this really is your question then I suggest you revise it as its premise is false.
"My country" as you call it does not have a definitive 'way of life' that needs preserving against some assumed attack by relativism. What ever my country's way of life is - I know that it is not static, never has been, and never will be. There is no pure genetic, social, national or racial inheritance. There are only the issues; freedom, liberty, welfare and community. It matters not a jot what colour it is - all men are my brothers, women my sisters. It is only by their attachment to the false gods of nation and religion which sets them against me and my kind.
What do I feel about AB? He will rot in gaol and that is where he belongs.

chaz wyman · **Joined:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:31 pm **Posts:** 10592

Notvacka wrote:

What Anders Behring Breivik showed us, is that when real terror strikes at the heart of a peaceful Scandinavian nation, it's not brought by some Islamist fundamentalist suicide bomber, but it comes in the shape of a blonde, handsome, Norwegian, supposedly Christian, right wing, libertarian, Islamophobic extremist with a gun permit and a deranged plan.

This exceptional attack is consistent with statistics. Here are numbers from Europol tallying terrorist acts in Europe 2009:

Total number: 1770
Islamic: 6 (0.34%)
Right Wing Ethno-Nationalist and Separatist: 1596 (90.17%)
Left Wing: 106 (5.99%)
Other/Not Specified: 62 (3.50%)

Interesting statistic. Nice find!

chaz wyman · **Joined:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:31 pm **Posts:** 10592

Arising_uk wrote:

Wootah wrote:

... To the extent that they trade with us reveals to the extent they don't think they can succeed that way yet.

Given that Australia only has about double the population of London do you seriously think if China wished to invade Australia you could stop them!? Ever thought it's because China is not expansionist in this way, especially since they can just buy the resources.

China has no need to invade. They are buying Australia right now.

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