Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

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Re: Heaven and hell are not just "illusory"

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Atla wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:39 pm
godelian wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:33 pm The only ontology that requires true "insight", is the Platonic one.
Like religion huh
Religion does not make use of mathematics. The reason why is simple. If it did, most people would not understand it.
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godelian wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:46 pm
Atla wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:39 pm
godelian wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:33 pm The only ontology that requires true "insight", is the Platonic one.
Like religion huh
Religion does not make use of mathematics. The reason why is simple. If it did, most people would not understand it.
I agree with Age's point that if there is a "multiverse" then the totality of all multiverses is, by definition, the universe. Even a dumb "hick" like me isn't as stupid as you are. What a joke. Spend all your life studying abstractions of math and you can't even see what's in front of your eyes.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:23 pm
godelian wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:46 pm
Atla wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:39 pm
Like religion huh
Religion does not make use of mathematics. The reason why is simple. If it did, most people would not understand it.
I agree with Age's point that if there is a "multiverse" then the totality of all multiverses is, by definition, the universe. Even a dumb "hick" like me isn't as stupid as you are. What a joke. Spend all your life studying abstractions of math and you can't even see what's in front of your eyes.
Why the hell would you agree with Age's point. In a multiverse topic, by definition the totality of all multiverses is not the universe.
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:27 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:23 pm
godelian wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:46 pm
Religion does not make use of mathematics. The reason why is simple. If it did, most people would not understand it.
I agree with Age's point that if there is a "multiverse" then the totality of all multiverses is, by definition, the universe. Even a dumb "hick" like me isn't as stupid as you are. What a joke. Spend all your life studying abstractions of math and you can't even see what's in front of your eyes.
Why the hell would you agree with Age's point. In a multiverse topic, by definition the totality of all multiverses is not the universe.
Because the "multiverse" is a bunch of nonsensical sophistry. It's a joke theory. It can't even get its terminology straight.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:27 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:23 pm

I agree with Age's point that if there is a "multiverse" then the totality of all multiverses is, by definition, the universe. Even a dumb "hick" like me isn't as stupid as you are. What a joke. Spend all your life studying abstractions of math and you can't even see what's in front of your eyes.
Why the hell would you agree with Age's point. In a multiverse topic, by definition the totality of all multiverses is not the universe.
Because the "multiverse" is a bunch of nonsensical sophistry. It's a joke of a theory. It can't even get its terminology straight.
There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's just not compatible with the old definition of universe.
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:35 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:27 pm
Why the hell would you agree with Age's point. In a multiverse topic, by definition the totality of all multiverses is not the universe.
Because the "multiverse" is a bunch of nonsensical sophistry. It's a joke of a theory. It can't even get its terminology straight.
There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's just not compatible with the old definition of universe.
There is no "old" definition of "universe". The universe has been much the same since the beginning of human civilization. The "multiverse" theory isn't even incorrect, it's nonsense. It's the equivalent of a pseudo-scientific cult.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:37 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:35 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm

Because the "multiverse" is a bunch of nonsensical sophistry. It's a joke of a theory. It can't even get its terminology straight.
There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's just not compatible with the old definition of universe.
There is no "old" definition of "universe". The universe has been much the same since the beginning of human civilization. The "multiverse" theory isn't even incorrect, it's nonsense.
Yes there is an "old" definition of "universe", at least when it comes to multiverse theories. Deal with it. :)
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:37 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:35 pm
There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's just not compatible with the old definition of universe.
There is no "old" definition of "universe". The universe has been much the same since the beginning of human civilization. The "multiverse" theory isn't even incorrect, it's nonsense.
Yes there is an "old" definition of "universe", at least when it comes to multiverse theories. Deal with it. :)
There's the universe and the universe is by definition everything. Multiverse nonsense is a stupid fad. They can't even prove there is a multiverse. What nonsense. If that's what you want to believe, knock yourself out. Let me know when you start levitating rocks and speaking in tongues.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:46 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:39 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:37 pm

There is no "old" definition of "universe". The universe has been much the same since the beginning of human civilization. The "multiverse" theory isn't even incorrect, it's nonsense.
Yes there is an "old" definition of "universe", at least when it comes to multiverse theories. Deal with it. :)
There's the universe and the universe is by definition everything. Multiverse nonsense is a stupid fad. They can't even prove there is a multiverse. What nonsense. If that's what you want to believe, knock yourself out. Let me know when you start levitating rocks and speaking in tongues.
Of course it can't be proven, it's not something to "believe" in. Just fuck off
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:47 pm Just fuck off
Poor thing. Whatever you want, dude.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:48 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:47 pm Just fuck off
Poor thing. Whatever you want, dude.
Not considering hypothetical extensions to the world we see, is the end of philosophy, but of course idiots like this one don't even understand this much
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:48 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:47 pm Just fuck off
Poor thing. Whatever you want, dude.
Not considering hypothetical extensions to the world we see, is the end of philosophy, but of course idiots like this one don't even understand this much
I'm sure you're not an idiot. You're probably very intelligent. You just need to get terminology straight. And it's not your fault. So don't be hard on yourself.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:58 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:48 pm

Poor thing. Whatever you want, dude.
Not considering hypothetical extensions to the world we see, is the end of philosophy, but of course idiots like this one don't even understand this much
I'm sure you're not an idiot. You're probably very intelligent. You just need to get terminology straight. And it's not your fault. So don't be hard on yourself.
In multiverse topics, "universe" doesn't mean absolutely everything. Which part of this escapes your understanding?
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Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:58 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 pm
Not considering hypothetical extensions to the world we see, is the end of philosophy, but of course idiots like this one don't even understand this much
I'm sure you're not an idiot. You're probably very intelligent. You just need to get terminology straight. And it's not your fault. So don't be hard on yourself.
In multiverse topics, "universe" doesn't mean absolutely everything. Which part of this escapes your understanding?
Then what do you call everything? Just "everything"?
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:04 pm
Atla wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:00 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:58 pm

I'm sure you're not an idiot. You're probably very intelligent. You just need to get terminology straight. And it's not your fault. So don't be hard on yourself.
In multiverse topics, "universe" doesn't mean absolutely everything. Which part of this escapes your understanding?
Then what do you call everything? Just "everything"?
Usually, everything = multiverse.
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