Truth-Lies

[Ollie.ha]

What is the difference between the truth and lies?

If you have the correct interpretation about something how can you tell?

What does knowledge share with the knower?

When you believe something, what confirms your beliefs?

[Age]

What is the difference between the truth and lies?

The 'truth' lays in and of itself. Whereas, 'lies' are 'things' human beings do.

If you have the correct interpretation about something how can you tell?

ASK the INFORMER, through AGREEMENT and ACCEPTANCE FROM and/or BY EVERY one, and/or by KNOWING that EVERY one could AGREE and ACCEPT.

What does knowledge share with the knower?

This QUESTION, TO 'me', appears ILLOGICAL and/or NONSENSICAL because 'knowledge' is NOT some 'thing' that could SHARE ANY 'thing'.

When you believe something, what confirms your beliefs?

But when one of 'you' BELIEVES some 'thing', then ACTUAL CONFIRMATION is NOT necessarily NEEDED.

See, 'you', human beings, can and do BELIEVE some 'things', which ABSOLUTELY GOES AGAINST the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth of 'things', but STILL BELIEVE that 'thing' TO BE TRUE.

However, what 'you', people, can and do USE TO CONFIRM 'your' OWN BELIEFS is 'your' OWN, PERSONAL, Past Experiences.

In fact ALL of 'your' BELIEVES are based SOLELY UPON Assumptions, from 'your' OWN Past Experiences.

[promethean75]

check this out. epistemologically, 'true' mean 'follows logically after premises'. phenomenologically it means something else. in experience we can only be certain or we can lie... but lying here only means not telling what u are certain about.

a man believes he is elvis and during a polygraph test he's asked 'are u elvis', if he says no, the needle will spike.

he's not elvis, but he's certain he is becuz there's third party proof that he's lying when the needle spikes. there is no 'true' or 'false' in this space, only certainty or an effort to conceal what one is certain about.

discuss.

[Iwannaplato]

What is the difference between the truth and lies?

I think it might be clearer if you asked about the difference between the truth and falsehood. To lie means to say something you know is not true (or you think is not true, but either way your intent is not to tell the truth). Trying to tell a lie and trying to tell the truth could be another pair of opposites focused on intent.

[Ollie.ha]

check this out. epistemologically, 'true' mean 'follows logically after premises'. phenomenologically it means something else. in experience we can only be certain or we can lie... but lying here only means not telling what u are certain about.

a man believes he is elvis and during a polygraph test he's asked 'are u elvis', if he says no, the needle will spike.

he's not elvis, but he's certain he is becuz there's third party proof that he's lying when the needle spikes. there is no 'true' or 'false' in this space, only certainty or an effort to conceal what one is certain about.

discuss.

So, how does the needle work?

[promethean75]

that is an excellent question.

The polygraph is registering very subtle physiological changes in the body. Now why would the brain freak out and the pulse raise and all that stuff when a person answers wrongly (against what they feel certain of)?

It would have to be becuz throughout our long evolutionary developmemt we consistently experienced apprehension and interrogation by our peers if we ever said something they knew, or suspected, was false. So these strange physical changes are relics... expressions of the nervousness we feel when lying.

Why these particular effects and not others, i dunno. It's like the executive cognitive functioning becomes aware when a product of memory recall is distorted or changed, e.g., u think you're elvis but u just answered no, u liar, and it zaps the brain, causing all those subtle changes.

Oh! Maybe these changes are the body's way of prepping for defensive measures? U just lied to the group and now they're fixin to jump u. Better get ready, haus.