here's how utopia should be

[Advocate]

The framework of the Utopia is a Libertarian Fascist Socialism (basic needs (both positive and negative) must be guaranteed, the purpose of which is to enable freedom). The formal structure is one head of state called Navigator and two councils, Advisory (of experts) and Adversarial (of skeptics). Each higher order government employee's main duty is delegation and their main power is veto. Public servants must act like it and live as monks. They are given the best with which to do their jobs and nothing else but the gratitude of the public at retirement if they've done a good job. They can have no family, pets, hobbies, or anything that might lead to special interests. Jurisdictions may only be drawn along necessary management levels. The geo-physical structure will be semi-autonomous city states inside a libertarian over-state. Human rights and the sustainability of the ecosystem, incl. esp. banning all nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons for all time. will be assured at any cost with no compromise - fascist. You may opt out of society into the free zone.

Citizenship is earned and gets you 100 votes to be used for various purposes, incl. housing and democracy, which is explicitly advisory and opt-in. The state ensures it's legitimacy by explicitly and actually caring for every individual's best interests. The least that can mean is knowing it. It also requires bringing things down in scale and complexity to a level ordinary people can understand and interact with. It requires that public service explicitly reject special interests. It requires that all decisions that may have cascading effects be fully justified in a manner that is accessible to all. It requires that there is a functional feedback system wherein all legitimate complaints are legitimately resolved. It requires that the best of society be made available to all persons, which is another use of your votes (rent a yacht, go into space, etc .- the experience lottery. It requires transparency for government and privacy for citizens. It requires simplicity and efficiency, esp. bringing the population level down at least until such time as domestic tranquility is ensured. A citizen is someone who is judged epistemologically sufficient to be trusted with decisions that may harm others; understanding the value of different kinds of evidence, logical fallacies and cognitive biases, and externalities. Ability to access weapons, entheogens, driving, sex, parenting, etc. will be granted by individual tests for competency. Public assistants are laymen who undertake government duties alongside normal lives. They do the work or collaborate to do the work entirely on their own initiative until they are formally recognized as congruent with the common good, at which time they are made an official part of the government and thereafter funded so long as they maintain that standard of duty.

Knowledge and creativity are the public commons and copyright is a crime against humanity. Useful patents will be purchased into the public domain (for now). Housing will be assigned by lottery. Everyone has the right to wander the Earth freely and interact with any creatures they happen across and settle anywhere that anyone else may settle, People wishing to move to a different place near their current location will be given precedent. Education is a common good and is free to all in any subject they're interested in, to any level they can reach. All onerous tasks will be automated. There will be regular "moon shots" to cure particular diseases or overcome various engineering hurdles, etc. Advertising is banned. Companies may publish their offerings in a factual manner and ensure it is widely available for access. They may not misrepresent any aspect of the product or service and every sale must be a la carte as is possible. All fees and associated expenses must be rolled into one cost which must be rounded to the nearest denomination. Corporations may only form for public purposes for limited times.. If they become a common good they will be nationalized. Government must use least-harmful means in most cases to achieve its objectives. To the extent profit remains, all businesses must be non-profit or co-op. All new structures must be better looking than whatever they replace. Your house is your home indefinitely. You are required to improve and customize it as well as keeping it well-repaired.

The government is hereby established. I am the first Navigator. Other governmental structures and resource use will be worked out by the councils over time. If you believe you qualify for a council position, HMU. There are eight seats on each.

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Please say in your responses exactly what you're responding to.

[Wizard22]

You and what army?

[Advocate]

[quote=Wizard22 post_id=683819 time=1702117587 user_id=22733]
You and what army?
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The method is subversion. Physical revolution may not be necessary and may not work even if it is, for reasons.

[commonsense]

Citizenship is earned and gets you 100 votes to be used for various purposes, incl. housing and democracy, which is explicitly advisory and opt-in.

I don’t understand why your utopia would limit the number of votes a citizen can have. The number of issues in which a citizen may have concern may be greater than 100 over the citizen’s lifetime.

The state ensures its legitimacy by explicitly and actually caring for every individual's best interests.

I don’t see how this is possible. The best interests of one individual can be in opposition to those of another.

[Age]

The framework of the Utopia is a Libertarian Fascist Socialism (basic needs (both positive and negative) must be guaranteed, the purpose of which is to enable freedom). The formal structure is one head of state called Navigator and two councils, Advisory (of experts) and Adversarial (of skeptics). Each higher order government employee's main duty is delegation and their main power is veto. Public servants must act like it and live as monks. They are given the best with which to do their jobs and nothing else but the gratitude of the public at retirement if they've done a good job. They can have no family, pets, hobbies, or anything that might lead to special interests. Jurisdictions may only be drawn along necessary management levels. The geo-physical structure will be semi-autonomous city states inside a libertarian over-state. Human rights and the sustainability of the ecosystem, incl. esp. banning all nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons for all time. will be assured at any cost with no compromise - fascist. You may opt out of society into the free zone.

Citizenship is earned and gets you 100 votes to be used for various purposes, incl. housing and democracy, which is explicitly advisory and opt-in. The state ensures it's legitimacy by explicitly and actually caring for every individual's best interests. The least that can mean is knowing it. It also requires bringing things down in scale and complexity to a level ordinary people can understand and interact with. It requires that public service explicitly reject special interests. It requires that all decisions that may have cascading effects be fully justified in a manner that is accessible to all. It requires that there is a functional feedback system wherein all legitimate complaints are legitimately resolved. It requires that the best of society be made available to all persons, which is another use of your votes (rent a yacht, go into space, etc .- the experience lottery. It requires transparency for government and privacy for citizens. It requires simplicity and efficiency, esp. bringing the population level down at least until such time as domestic tranquility is ensured. A citizen is someone who is judged epistemologically sufficient to be trusted with decisions that may harm others; understanding the value of different kinds of evidence, logical fallacies and cognitive biases, and externalities. Ability to access weapons, entheogens, driving, sex, parenting, etc. will be granted by individual tests for competency. Public assistants are laymen who undertake government duties alongside normal lives. They do the work or collaborate to do the work entirely on their own initiative until they are formally recognized as congruent with the common good, at which time they are made an official part of the government and thereafter funded so long as they maintain that standard of duty.

Knowledge and creativity are the public commons and copyright is a crime against humanity. Useful patents will be purchased into the public domain (for now). Housing will be assigned by lottery. Everyone has the right to wander the Earth freely and interact with any creatures they happen across and settle anywhere that anyone else may settle, People wishing to move to a different place near their current location will be given precedent. Education is a common good and is free to all in any subject they're interested in, to any level they can reach. All onerous tasks will be automated. There will be regular "moon shots" to cure particular diseases or overcome various engineering hurdles, etc. Advertising is banned. Companies may publish their offerings in a factual manner and ensure it is widely available for access. They may not misrepresent any aspect of the product or service and every sale must be a la carte as is possible. All fees and associated expenses must be rolled into one cost which must be rounded to the nearest denomination. Corporations may only form for public purposes for limited times.. If they become a common good they will be nationalized. Government must use least-harmful means in most cases to achieve its objectives. To the extent profit remains, all businesses must be non-profit or co-op. All new structures must be better looking than whatever they replace. Your house is your home indefinitely. You are required to improve and customize it as well as keeping it well-repaired.

The government is hereby established. I am the first Navigator. Other governmental structures and resource use will be worked out by the councils over time. If you believe you qualify for a council position, HMU. There are eight seats on each.

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Please say in your responses exactly what you're responding to.

'This' is NOT HOW 'utopia' SHOULD BE.

I AM RESPONDING TO ALL OF 'it'.

[Advocate]

[quote=commonsense post_id=684373 time=1702314466 user_id=14610]
[quote=Advocate post_id=683774 time=1702095286 user_id=15238]
Citizenship is earned and gets you 100 votes to be used for various purposes, incl. housing and democracy, which is explicitly advisory and opt-in. [/quote]

I don’t understand why your utopia would limit the number of votes a citizen can have. The number of issues in which a citizen may have concern may be greater than 100 over the citizen’s lifetime.

[quote=Advocate post_id=683774 time=1702095286 user_id=15238]
The state ensures its legitimacy by explicitly and actually caring for every individual's best interests.
[/quote]

I don’t see how this is possible. The best interests of one individual can be in opposition to those of another.
[/quote]

Democracy is advisory. Your vote is divisible so that you can delegate your votes to other people or experts to represent part of your interests for you. For instance, give 15 to Grandma, 10 to your gun club, and vote the rest yourself. I'll try to think of a clearer way to rephrase that.

The interests of survival and domestic harmony and sustainability must coinside or we're Doomed!

[Age]

Citizenship is earned and gets you 100 votes to be used for various purposes, incl. housing and democracy, which is explicitly advisory and opt-in.

I don’t understand why your utopia would limit the number of votes a citizen can have. The number of issues in which a citizen may have concern may be greater than 100 over the citizen’s lifetime.

The state ensures its legitimacy by explicitly and actually caring for every individual's best interests.

I don’t see how this is possible. The best interests of one individual can be in opposition to those of another.

Democracy is advisory. Your vote is divisible so that you can delegate your votes to other people or experts to represent part of your interests for you. For instance, give 15 to Grandma, 10 to your gun club, and vote the rest yourself. I'll try to think of a clearer way to rephrase that.

The interests of survival and domestic harmony and sustainability must coinside or we're Doomed!

When 'you' SAY, 'domestic harmony' how far-a-field is 'your' reach here?

Also, having the interests of survival and harmony does NOT ALIGN WITH 'your' opening post here.

[commonsense]

Democracy is advisory. Your vote is divisible so that you can delegate your votes to other people or experts to represent part of your interests for you. For instance, give 15 to Grandma, 10 to your gun club, and vote the rest yourself. I'll try to think of a clearer way to rephrase that.

The interests of survival and domestic harmony and sustainability must coinside or we're Doomed!

Oh!!! What you didn’t say was that each citizen is allotted 100 votes per each time votes are cast.

And I see that in utopia there are no individual interests, and therefore no individual thoughts, regarding survival, harmony and sustainability. It hardly seems like democracy is necessary. Any individual has the same ideas (about everything?) as everyone else.

[FrankGSterleJr]

“The way a society functions is a reflection of the childrearing practices of that society. Today we reap what we have sown. Despite the well-documented critical nature of early life experiences, we dedicate few resources to this time of life. We do not educate our children about child development, parenting, or the impact of neglect and trauma on children.”
— Dr. Bruce D. Perry, Ph.D. & Dr. John Marcellus

“It has been said that if child abuse and neglect were to disappear today, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual would shrink to the size of a pamphlet in two generations, and the prisons would empty. Or, as Bernie Siegel, MD, puts it, quite simply, after half a century of practicing medicine, ‘I have become convinced that our number-one public health problem is our childhood’.”
— Childhood Disrupted, pg.228
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When I asked a BC Teachers’ Federation official over the phone whether there is any childrearing or child-development science curriculum taught in any of B.C.’s school districts, he immediately replied there is not. When I asked the reason for its absence and whether it may be due to the subject matter being too controversial, he replied with a simple “Yes”.

This strongly suggests there are philosophical thus political obstacles to teaching students such crucial life skills as nourishingly parenting one’s children. To me, it’s difficult to imagine that teaching parenting curriculum would be considered more controversial than, say, teaching students Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI) curriculum, beginning in Kindergarten, as is currently taught in B.C. public schools.

Being free nations, society cannot prevent anyone from bearing children; society can, however, educate all young people for the most important job ever, even those who plan to remain childless. I would like to see child-development science curriculum implemented for secondary high school students, and it would also include neurodiversity, albeit not overly complicated. It would be mandatory course material, however, and considerably more detailed than what’s already covered by home economics, etcetera, curriculum: e.g. diaper changing, baby feeding and so forth.

I don’t think the latter is anywhere near sufficient (at least not how I experienced it) when it comes to the proper development of a child’s mind. For one thing, the curriculum could/would make available to students potentially valuable/useful knowledge about their own psyches and why they are the way they are.

Additionally, besides their own nature, students can also learn about the natures of their peers, which might foster greater tolerance for atypical personalities. If nothing else, the curriculum could offer students an idea/clue as to whether they’re emotionally suited for the immense responsibility and strains of parenthood.

I read a children’s health academic state a fact, however unoriginal: “You have to pass a test to drive a car or to become a … citizen, but there’s no exam required to become a parent. And yet child abuse can stem from a lack of awareness about child development.” There’s so much to know and understand about child development (science) in order to properly/functionally rear a child to his/her full potential in life.

By not teaching child-development science to high school students, is it not as though we, societally, are implying that anyone can comfortably enough go forth with unconditionally bearing children with whatever minute amount, if any at all, of such vital knowledge they happen to have acquired over time? It’s like we will somehow, in blind anticipation, be innately inclined to fully understand and appropriately nurture our children’s naturally developing minds and needs.

I can’t help wondering how many instances there have been wherein immense long-term suffering by children of dysfunctional rearing might have been prevented had the parent(s) received, as high school students, some crucial child development science education by way of mandatory curriculum. After all, dysfunctional and/or abusive parents, for example, may not have had the chance to be anything else due to their lack of such education and their own dysfunctional/abusive rearing as children.

Every parent should be knowledgeable about factual child-development science thus more enabled to rear their children in a more psychologically healthy and functional manner.

In Childhood Disrupted: How Your Biography Becomes Your Biology and How You Can Heal the author writes that “[even] well-meaning and loving parents can unintentionally do harm to a child if they are not well informed about human development” (pg.24).

Regarding early life or adverse childhood experience trauma, people tend to know (perhaps commonsensically) that they should not loudly quarrel when, for instance, a baby is in the next room; however, do they know about the intricacies of why not?

Since it cannot fight or flight, a baby stuck in a crib on its back hearing parental discord in the next room can only “move into a third neurological state, known as a ‘freeze’ state … This freeze state is a trauma state” (pg.123). This causes its brain to improperly develop. It’s like a form of non-physical-impact brain damage.

Also, it is the unpredictability of a stressor, and not the intensity, that does the most harm. When the stressor “is completely predictable, even if it is more traumatic — such as giving a [laboratory] rat a regularly scheduled foot shock accompanied by a sharp, loud sound — the stress does not create these exact same [negative] brain changes” (pg.42).

Furthermore, how many of us were aware that, since young children completely rely on their parents for protection and sustenance, they will understandably stress over having their parents angry at them for prolonged periods of time? It makes me question the wisdom of punishing children by sending them to their room without dinner.

Since so much of our lifelong health comes from our childhood experiences, childhood mental health-care should generate as much societal concern and government funding as does physical health, even though psychological dysfunction typically isn’t immediately visually/externally observable.

Meantime, people will continue procreating regardless of their inability to parent their children in a psychologically functional/healthy manner. Many people seem to perceive thus treat human procreative ‘rights’ as though they [people] will somehow, in blind anticipation, be innately inclined to sufficiently understand and appropriately nurture their children’s naturally developing minds and needs.

Also troublesome is that, owing to the Only If It’s In My Own Back Yard mindset, the prevailing collective attitude (implicit or subconscious) basically follows: ‘Why should I care — my kids are alright?’ or ‘What is in it for me, the taxpayer, if I support social programs for other people’s troubled families?’

But, the wellbeing of all children — and not just what other parents’ children might/will cost us as future criminals or costly cases of government care, etcetera — needs to be of great importance to us all, regardless of whether we’re doing a great job with our own developing children. And as a moral rule, a physically and mentally sound future should be every child’s fundamental right — along with air, water, food and shelter — especially considering the very troubled world into which they never asked to enter.
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“I remember leaving the hospital thinking, ‘Wait, are they going to let me just walk off with him? I don’t know beans about babies! I don’t have a license to do this. We’re just amateurs’.”
—Anne Tyler, Breathing Lessons

“It’s only after children have been discovered to be severely battered that their parents are forced to take a childrearing course as a condition of regaining custody. That’s much like requiring no license or driver’s ed[ucation] to drive a car, then waiting until drivers injure or kill someone before demanding that they learn how to drive.”
—MyriamMiedzian, Ph.D.