Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:24 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:18 pm
If we don't agree on the entity with which we are dealing, the moral waters get too cloudy.
In the past I've seen you insist that everyone who views abortion as anything other than murder knows they are wrong. You seem to have adjusted your position now?
No. They know. But some won't say, and will use it as an excuse to deny the first premise of any defense-of-life for children.
But children are born 'innately' so-called and with the misnomer "sinners'", and so do wrong. So, ending the life of "sinners'" is good and right, correct?
Well that is what the 'court system' in that country in this thread title SAYS and STATES. After all it is 'court ordered' that those who 'do wrong' are sentenced TO and put TO 'death'.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm
There's no future in an argument with somebody who's being that dishonest.
But 'you' have shown and still continually show that 'you', "immanuel can", are one of the MOST Dishonest ones here.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm
And there's no future in an argument with anybody who's COMMITTED an abortion, either-- because they have absolutely no incentive ever to admit to themselves, under any circumstances, that what they have actually done is murdered their own child.
This view here "immanuel can" would be about one of the smallest and narrowest views that 'you' have expressed and shown here. That is, if just how Truly CLOSED 'it' REALLY IS was NOT as OBVIOUS as 'it' IS, EXACTLY.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm
They'll never grant you that, no matter what; but it's not because they haven't done it, but because they cannot stand to admit the truth to themselves, so you'll never ever get them to agree.
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One just HAS TO DEFINE the word 'murder', SHOW how 'that definition' relates to what is being discussed here, then absolutely NO one could REFUTE that what is being discussed is NOT 'murder'.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm
It would take too much honesty, and it would be too painful for them ever to recognize.
But we digress...
'you' may be digressing but 'you' are also POINTING OUT and DESCRIBING EXACTLY what 'you' DO "immanuel can".
'you' are a PRIME CANDIDATE of one who it is OBVIOUSLY to painful for 'you' to even RECOGNIZE just how Dishonest 'you' REALLY HAVE BEEN here.