Consciousness requires something more than functionality isomorphic to Turing Machine?

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: Consciousness requires something more than functionality isomorphic to Turing Machine?

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Darkneos wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:15 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:09 pm
Darkneos wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:16 pm
Nope, the change is just instant. Stop making stuff up.
Instantaneous/simultaneously: they mean the same thing If you think otherwise, then tell me how you would measure the difference.
It's kinda irrelevant since his logic doesn't prove mind or that mind is responsible for change. It just asserts it.
It is relevant.
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Re: Consciousness requires something more than functionality isomorphic to Turing Machine?

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bahman wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:20 am
Darkneos wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:15 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:09 pm

Instantaneous/simultaneously: they mean the same thing If you think otherwise, then tell me how you would measure the difference.
It's kinda irrelevant since his logic doesn't prove mind or that mind is responsible for change. It just asserts it.
It is relevant.
It’s really not, because your logic doesn’t work either way.
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Re: Consciousness requires something more than functionality isomorphic to Turing Machine?

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Darkneos wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:32 pm
bahman wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:20 am
Darkneos wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:15 pm

It's kinda irrelevant since his logic doesn't prove mind or that mind is responsible for change. It just asserts it.
It is relevant.
It’s really not, because your logic doesn’t work either way.
It works since there is a gap and there is a change.
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Re: Consciousness requires something more than functionality isomorphic to Turing Machine?

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bahman wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:08 pm
Darkneos wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:32 pm
bahman wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:20 am
It is relevant.
It’s really not, because your logic doesn’t work either way.
It works since there is a gap and there is a change.
No gap, like I said.

Even then still doesn’t mean mind, we’ve been over this. Get new material.
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