Atla wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:28 am
Darkneos wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:13 am
Actually no, it’s not a matter of budget. At larger scales the quantum probability is so low that the likelihood of it happening is effectively zero. I don’t remember the why.
It’s not hearsay, it just is what it is. And again the levels end when the rules change. I don’t know when that is, likely above a certain level of complexity. It’s like atoms forming molecules, then cells, tissues, organs, living things. All various levels of existence.
Again your ignorance on this makes it difficult to discuss. Why not talk to someone who studied this like I did? I’m making my case but you’ve gone nothing, which seems to be a running thing on this forum so far.
Yes at larger "scales" the probability is effectively zero, which isn't the same as zero, is it. So yes, it's also a matter of budget.
No wonder you don't remember the why either, as "scale" is just an interpretation too that may be nonsense. There's no reason to think that "scale" is anything but a human subjective view, and not a feature of how the universe actually works.
Complexity is likely yet another human subjective view, and not a feature of how the universe actually works.
So you couldn't provide any evidence for your belief that there are levels of existence. No evidence for scale as an explanation, no evidence for complexity as an explanation, no evidence for a strict boundary between levels.
Saying that atoms and molecules are different levels of existence, makes even less sense, a molecule is atoms put together. Cells are molecules put together, and so on.
Guess who is the ignorant one
Again no, but there is only so much you can talk to someone who doesn’t get it.
Scale isn’t an interpretation it simply is. At different speeds and different energy levels or “sizes” different laws of physics apply. Calling it a matter of budget is just stupid. The probability is effectively zero, but again so low as to not really be concerned about.
Complexity a feature of how the universe works. Just looking at how at different size and energy levels the things at work behave differently. Humans needs to eat and sleep but the atoms that make us up don’t. Like I said, it’s complicated, likely more than you grasp.
Atoms and molecules are different levels of existence but more closely related than cells. Once you get to the level of a cell you start getting into the level of “life” so to speak. At the macro level different rules apply than the micro.
Like I said before you got nothing. Your only point is that science is imperfect, which is duh. But that’s a non starter, no system is perfect. I’ve given evidence, even explained it, they’re only so much you can say to someone who just doesn’t know.
Face it, you’re too ignorant on the matter to hold a conversation. But then again given the the posts on metaphysics so far that checks out.
It’s really hard to take you seriously she. You have nothing to show for it and think the low probably of quantum phenomena at the macro level is a matter of budget.
Talk to people who study this, like I did. You might learn something. The fact you think I have given no evidence though doesn’t give me much hope. Levels to existence is just a fact, not a belief.