The Meaning of the Number System ("quantity" is incorrect)
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If you are on drugs, you should stop immediately. If you are not on drugs, you should start.
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I sat around in bliss once, then I cleaned myself off...
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That's it? You sit around in bliss all day? So does a fentanyl addict on skid row. What kind of life is that?
Yes. Have you considered posting to the Metaphysics forum? Your posts would be more appropriate there. Your content has nothing to do with the philosophy of mathematics.
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No, a fentanyl addict has a low accompanying each high, whereas I abide in the natural state, which is continual contentment free of all suffering (no highs and lows)wtf wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:35 pmThat's it? You sit around in bliss all day? So does a fentanyl addict on skid row. What kind of life is that?
Yes. Have you considered posting to the Metaphysics forum? Your posts would be more appropriate there. Your content has nothing to do with the philosophy of mathematics.
This theory shows how all of mathematics is incorrect. How does this not relate to mathematics?
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That makes you a garden variety crank.
But without my having to watch you sit silently in front of a webcam for two hours, can you just give a simple example of a piece of math that you've proven incorrect? And please provide the proof.
If "all" of mathematics is incorrect, is 1 + 1 = 2 incorrect? How so?
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1 + 1 = 3 for very large values of 1.
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I sat square in the middle of bliss, then I rounded my corners.Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:51 pm I sat around in bliss once, then I cleaned myself off...
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Prove to me how 1+1=2 is correct. You are assuming it to be correct and putting the emphasis on me to disprove it. But I have not been convinced that 1+1=2 makes any intuitive sense whatsoever. What does it even mean?wtf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:42 pmThat makes you a garden variety crank.
But without my having to watch you sit silently in front of a webcam for two hours, can you just give a simple example of a piece of math that you've proven incorrect? And please provide the proof.
If "all" of mathematics is incorrect, is 1 + 1 = 2 incorrect? How so?
So please do explain to me how 1+1=2, and what truth it is relating to.
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But 1 + 1 = 3 (for very large values of 1)
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What makes you think Climate Change is happening and for the reasons scientists say it is? They used a lot of math including addition to draw their conclusions. Were they mistaken to base their conclusions on math that's really a message about souls repeating themselves and has nothing to do with quantity???????????????????????roydop wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:25 pm Prove to me how 1+1=2 is correct. You are assuming it to be correct and putting the emphasis on me to disprove it. But I have not been convinced that 1+1=2 makes any intuitive sense whatsoever. What does it even mean?
So please do explain to me how 1+1=2, and what truth it is relating to.
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Anyone with any sense of intuition at all would determine that burning the amount of fossil fuels that we do will distrupt the natural balance. No need of math there at all.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:58 pmWhat makes you think Climate Change is happening and for the reasons scientists say it is? They used a lot of math including addition to draw their conclusions. Were they mistaken to base their conclusions on math that's really a message about souls repeating themselves and has nothing to do with quantity???????????????????????roydop wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:25 pm Prove to me how 1+1=2 is correct. You are assuming it to be correct and putting the emphasis on me to disprove it. But I have not been convinced that 1+1=2 makes any intuitive sense whatsoever. What does it even mean?
So please do explain to me how 1+1=2, and what truth it is relating to.
Also, I have never stated that math doesn't work. It works to create the illusion (of separately existing phenomena). Mathematics offers no answers to any questions, it's just information that is being used to maximize profits and create technology (this technology has human consciousness helplessly mesmerized by the screen).
Now, prove to me that 1+1=2. How does it come to be and what does it mean?
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So, you were concerned about climate change, as opposed to other effects like pollution say, long before CC was an issue in the papers.
You've said it's incorrect.Also, I have never stated that math doesn't work.
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That is one thing one could argue it does. It does other things. But you kept making this blanket statement that it is incorrect.It works to create the illusion (of separately existing phenomena).
Well, again, it helped scientists make specific predictions about CC. It helps people when bartering in marketplaces going back to prehistoric times. It helps daycare workers make sure they have the right number of toddlers when they're field trips. And so on.Mathematics offers no answers to any questions, it's just information that is being used to maximize profits and create technology (this technology has human consciousness helplessly mesmerized by the screen).
Language separates things also. So, we could blame it all on language, which you may also do. Here you separate out 'numbers' and blame them or blame mathematics for causing things. That's separating out existing phenomena. You're not blaming biology or plumbing. You're blaming math or the number system.
We could say that bodies only create technology to destroy. But then this ignores other things done.
We could say awareness contributes to the destruction of the earth, because if scientists weren't aware of tools, formulas, where to get funding, what they are doing, then they wouldn't do X and Y which are bad.
Why? In my experience it's a useful convention. My wife asks me to get two yoghurts which she needs to make a dinner. I know what she means. I get two. I know that when I reach up and get one, I still have one more to get. Then I have two. It works. That's so simple I am not adding. But with other requests I may very well add (or, with a shocking lack of care for the universe multiply: perhaps when determining the surface of the walls before I get the right amount of paint. It's working for me. A better questions is Why should I stop using addition.Now, prove to me that 1+1=2.
You stated somewhere in one of your videos that we've all been convinced by a 360 page book. Nah. We came up with a way to make things work more clearly, long before Russell and Whitehead wrote that book. It works for us. People also use it for bad stuff. But then, bad stuff in terms of climate change includes the math that went into buidling your house, which looks pretty large. It goes into the tech you use to tell us about math.
Tell me why I shouldn't use math. Demonstrate why we should not use it period.
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My wife asks me to make the baby bath temperature 2 degrees.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 amWhy? In my experience it's a useful convention. My wife asks me to get two yoghurts which she needs to make a dinner. I know what she means. I get two. I know that when I reach up and get one, I still have one more to get.Now, prove to me that 1+1=2.
It's 1 degree now. So I add equal quantity of 1 degree water. And the water is still 1 degree!
Fuck! Apparently 1+1=1
Mathematicians are really good at hiding all the details because their brains do all the work for them.
But the "+" in 1+1=2 and 1+1=1 mean very different things.
Philosophers call this "equivocation".
Computer Scientists call it polymorphism.
Either way the question is "What do you mean by +?"
Here's some context: https://youtu.be/wZSvuCJBaFU
It's not about using it; or not using it. It's that most Mathematicians are lying (to themselves) about how you really use it. They omit (a lot!) of the details to the point they don't even realise they are lying to themselves.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:38 am Tell me why I shouldn't use math. Demonstrate why we should not use it period.