From Natural Objective Facts to Objective Moral Facts

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

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Veritas Aequitas
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Re: From Natural Objective Facts to Objective Moral Facts

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:07 pm
henry quirk wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:26 pm Inside your own head, I reckon. It's a fact you know about yourself.
Now we all know there’s no one who lives inside a head who talks to you.
Just as there’s no one who knows itself…simply because there was never any one who chose to be a self.
A self is illusory, an illusion believing it has free will is rather absurd since there is no self to whom free will would apply.
Just as no self ever chose to be a self..any apparent self must be an illusion same goes for free will.
The sense of self is a very persistent delusion an illusion.
Are you familiar with the Principle of Charity and disambiguation.
  • Disambiguation (also called word sense disambiguation or text disambiguation) is the act of interpreting an author's intended use of a word that has multiple meanings or spellings.

    In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity or charitable interpretation requires interpreting a speaker's statements in the most rational way possible and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity#
Your problem is whenever you set sight of the word 'you' you go berserk and rabid without any consideration of the contexts via disambiguation and applying the Principle of Charity.

The point is the word 'you' is a very loose term comprising a a wide range of meanings that is relevant to the specific contexts.
see https://www.dictionary.com/browse/you
the pronoun of the second person singular or plural, used of the person or persons being addressed, in the nominative or objective case:
You are the highest bidder. It is you who are to blame. We can't help you. This package came for you. Did she give you the book?
one; anyone; people in general:
a tiny animal you can't even see.
(used in apposition with the subject of a sentence, sometimes repeated for emphasis following the subject):
You children pay attention. You rascal, you!
Informal. (used in place of the pronoun your before a gerund):
There's no sense in you getting upset.
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noun, plural yous.
something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed:
Don't buy the bright red shirt—it just isn't you. It was like seeing another you.
the nature or character of the person addressed:
Try to discover the hidden you.
What Henry's activity above is Self-Reflection which is a good thing to do;
  • Self-reflection is the ability to witness and evaluate our own cognitive, emotional, and behavioural processes. In psychology, other terms used for this self-observation include 'reflective awareness', and 'reflective consciousness', which originate from the work of William James.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-reflection
The broken-record 'you' which you are entrapped with is a 'you' in the sense of an independent thing [soul] that will survive physical death, thus the problem of dualism.
This 'you' when reified as real is actually an illusion.
When this illusion is reified as real [driven by the existential angst], it bring forth all sort of problems, evil and sufferings to the individual[s] and humanity.

You [the empirical self] need to consider the above Principle of Charity and disambiguation in contexts when responding to a post.
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