How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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Re: How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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Iwannaplato wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:31 pm

This sounds very much like you have a concern that one will harm someone who should not be harmed,
but
that is impossible since, as you have said many times, nothing bad can happen to someone unless it is punishment for prior sins.

Saying such logic you shall not avoid helping a good person. Suppose a good person is harmed by a bad person. You must try from your side to save him, even after all your trails also if you are unable to save so called good person then you can conclude that it is due to his previous bad action that he has received such and such harm now.

But you shall not think when you see a good person suffering. You shall immediately try to help. Even after you try from all the angles then also you or anybody else is not able save him then it is the result of his past sinful deed.
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Re: How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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Iwannaplato wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:31 pm
For anyone reading this and finding it strange, please investigate further DS's views on how any child being raped or harmed must have sinned in a past life and this is punishment now from God.
When you see such incident infront of you, you shall immediately try to save such a child using all possible means. You shall not just be idle and leave it to its fate. You shall try your level best to save that child. Even after all your trails if bad thing happen then you cannot do anything about that.

If you say that it is due to its bad karma that this child is being rapped and you simply look without helping in such case you will also be punished severely by God for not helping that child to come out of that rape.
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Re: How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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dattaswami wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:16 pm When you see such incident infront of you, you shall immediately try to save such a child using all possible means.
Yes, I understand you are not a monster.

If you say that it is due to its bad karma that this child is being rapped and you simply look without helping in such case you will also be punished severely by God for not helping that child to come out of that rape.
Though if you were in a wheelchair and God knows this, he still decided, for some reason, not to intervene himself. He will come and help gurus produce fruit in the air or get rid of rashes and sometimes even more significant miracles.

But if the humans near the child rape cannot get there in time or are tied to the wall, God will generally not interfere, because God has chosen that punishment for the child.

We must rush to save, and God need not.

Because God could not figure out another way to teach that soul. Such is the limit of his pedagogy.
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Re: How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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Walker wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:02 pm
Age wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:33 pm
So, to you, harming a so-called 'bad person' is NOT violence.
Doing no harm is not violence.
So, you have the opposite view of "dattaswami" here, right,
Walker wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:02 pm In some martial arts, the aim is to protect the attacker.
Okay, but what is the "attacker" supposedly meant to be protected from here, EXACTLY?
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Re: How can propagation of spiritual knowledge lead to control of sin in a country?

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There is no sin.
Sin is a religious concept. If there were no religion there would be no sin.
So only negative propagation of spiritual knowledge can control the outbreak of sin.
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