Free will

[bahman]

This could mean one could just say, "I did NOT 'want' to kill that individual", (which they just KILLED), and to you that would be a so-called 'free, or unbiased, decision', which they would NOT be 'responsible' for, the KILLING of 'that individual'.

No, it does not mean that since you are free.

TWISTED and DISTORTED BABBLE, AGAIN.

I am done with you.

[Age]

No, it does not mean that since you are free.

TWISTED and DISTORTED BABBLE, AGAIN.

I am done with you.

Okay. But you STILL have NOT YET been ABLE TO provide absolutely ANY example, which backs up and supports YOUR CLAIM. Which, REALLY, reveals what thee ACTUAL Truth IS here

[bahman]

TWISTED and DISTORTED BABBLE, AGAIN.

I am done with you.

Okay. But you STILL have NOT YET been ABLE TO provide absolutely ANY example, which backs up and supports YOUR CLAIM. Which, REALLY, reveals what thee ACTUAL Truth IS here

I provide an example of having doubt but I cannot convince you of the simple fact that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time.

[Age]

I am done with you.

Okay. But you STILL have NOT YET been ABLE TO provide absolutely ANY example, which backs up and supports YOUR CLAIM. Which, REALLY, reveals what thee ACTUAL Truth IS here

I provide an example of having doubt but I cannot convince you of the simple fact that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time.

LOL "bahman", you are so CONFUSED and DISTORTED here. Or, you are just 'trying to' DEFLECT because you KNOW how Wrong you REALLY ARE and that you now can NOT get out of this without admitting just how Wrong you ARE.

1. I NEVER wanted you to provide an example of you having doubt. I already KNOW you do. I WANT you to provide an example of when you think or BELIEVE you have made a choice and have NOT been biased in that decision. We are STILL WAITING for THIS example.

2. I have NEVER even thought l, let alone said, that you could have doubt and been certain, of the EXACT SAME thing, at the EXACT SAME time, so WHY you are ASSUMING what you are here ONLY you would know, maybe.

[BigMike]

We may like A and B equally and choose one of them. It is clear that we cannot be biased by one of the options so our decision is free in such a situation.

No! If you like A and B equally, you are unable to choose one. You must "flip a coin", literally or figuratively. Your choice is then determined by the outcome of the "coin flip". So, your will is NOT FREE.

There are situations that which the future outcome of A or B is not known. Again we cannot be biased by one of the options yet we can decide so such a decision is free too.

No! You base your decision on what you, based on previous experience, think is your best option, which is identical to your first example:

We may like A more than B and choose A. This is a non-free decision that we call it conditional decision.

So, all of your three different situations show that you have no free will.

[bahman]

Okay. But you STILL have NOT YET been ABLE TO provide absolutely ANY example, which backs up and supports YOUR CLAIM. Which, REALLY, reveals what thee ACTUAL Truth IS here

I provide an example of having doubt but I cannot convince you of the simple fact that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time.

LOL "bahman", you are so CONFUSED and DISTORTED here. Or, you are just 'trying to' DEFLECT because you KNOW how Wrong you REALLY ARE and that you now can NOT get out of this without admitting just how Wrong you ARE.

1. I NEVER wanted you to provide an example of you having doubt. I already KNOW you do. I WANT you to provide an example of when you think or BELIEVE you have made a choice and have NOT been biased in that decision. We are STILL WAITING for THIS example.

2. I have NEVER even thought l, let alone said, that you could have doubt and been certain, of the EXACT SAME thing, at the EXACT SAME time, so WHY you are ASSUMING what you are here ONLY you would know, maybe.

You are not biased when you have doubt.

[Age]

I provide an example of having doubt but I cannot convince you of the simple fact that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time.

LOL "bahman", you are so CONFUSED and DISTORTED here. Or, you are just 'trying to' DEFLECT because you KNOW how Wrong you REALLY ARE and that you now can NOT get out of this without admitting just how Wrong you ARE.

1. I NEVER wanted you to provide an example of you having doubt. I already KNOW you do. I WANT you to provide an example of when you think or BELIEVE you have made a choice and have NOT been biased in that decision. We are STILL WAITING for THIS example.

2. I have NEVER even thought l, let alone said, that you could have doubt and been certain, of the EXACT SAME thing, at the EXACT SAME time, so WHY you are ASSUMING what you are here ONLY you would know, maybe.

You are not biased when you have doubt.

I have ALREADY explained EXACTLY how you CAN BE biased when you HAVE doubt.

[bahman]

LOL "bahman", you are so CONFUSED and DISTORTED here. Or, you are just 'trying to' DEFLECT because you KNOW how Wrong you REALLY ARE and that you now can NOT get out of this without admitting just how Wrong you ARE.

1. I NEVER wanted you to provide an example of you having doubt. I already KNOW you do. I WANT you to provide an example of when you think or BELIEVE you have made a choice and have NOT been biased in that decision. We are STILL WAITING for THIS example.

2. I have NEVER even thought l, let alone said, that you could have doubt and been certain, of the EXACT SAME thing, at the EXACT SAME time, so WHY you are ASSUMING what you are here ONLY you would know, maybe.

You are not biased when you have doubt.

I have ALREADY explained EXACTLY how you CAN BE biased when you HAVE doubt.

And I already explained that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time. End of discussion.

[promethean75]

But someone can be certain they are in doubt tho, right?

[bahman]

But someone can be certain they are in doubt tho, right?

Sure. But that is not what I am talking about. I am saying that given a situation that is defined by at least two options you cannot be certain and have doubts about options at the same time.

[Age]

You are not biased when you have doubt.

I have ALREADY explained EXACTLY how you CAN BE biased when you HAVE doubt.

And I already explained that you cannot have doubt and be certain at the same time.

AND, I have NEVER disagreed that NOR disputed this.

WHY can you NOT understand this Fact?

End of discussion.

You RUN AWAY, AGAIN, because, ONCE AGAIN, you have absolutely NOTHING, which backs up and supports your claim here.

[Age]

But someone can be certain they are in doubt tho, right?

Sure. But that is not what I am talking about. I am saying that given a situation that is defined by at least two options you cannot be certain and have doubts about options at the same time.

AND, NO one has SAID NOR CLAIMED otherwise.

[bahman]

But someone can be certain they are in doubt tho, right?

Sure. But that is not what I am talking about. I am saying that given a situation that is defined by at least two options you cannot be certain and have doubts about options at the same time.

AND, NO one has SAID NOR CLAIMED otherwise.

So if you agree with this then you are not biased when you are in doubt and biased when you are certain.

[Age]

Sure. But that is not what I am talking about. I am saying that given a situation that is defined by at least two options you cannot be certain and have doubts about options at the same time.

AND, NO one has SAID NOR CLAIMED otherwise.

So if you agree with this then you are not biased when you are in doubt and biased when you are certain.

But, OBVIOUSLY, one can STILL be 'biased' when they are in 'doubt'. As I have ALREADY SHOWN and PROVED IRREFUTABLY True.

Also, let us NOT FORGET that you have NEVER provided absolutely ANY example of when you have made an ACTUAL decision and you have NOT be 'biased'. And this is because you NEVER have. Unless, OF COURSE, you SHOW and PROVE otherwise.