What, you don't like it that I am agreeing with you here?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:44 pmWhat are you on about? Are you drunk?Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:00 pmThe term, "Holocaust" itself is a reference to genocide and intentionally ignores the general CRIME here.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:42 pm Well, the Nazis spent a lot of time aiming hatred at what they considered a race, the Jews. That they were racist against Roma, doesn't take away from their racism against what they considered a race, the Jews. That they hated Communists and jailed and concentration camped communists doesn't take away from their racists tracts, books, speeches, radio programs, race laws that justified kiling this person but not that one based on how much they belonged to or had genes of a race. That they killed developmentally disabled people does not take away from their racism. They were racist against Jews and spent more time focused on this racism - in terms of propaganda - than they spend on other races and groups. But, sure they hated other people also. If i hate black people and also want to euthanize people who have cleft palates or men who wear their hair long, this doesn't take away from my racism. Nor does the Nazi hatred and killing of other groups mean that the Holocaust, which is a term focusing on the killing based on race which was primarily focused on Jews, but yes also got aimed at Roma, Poles. But the term, which was actually first used in relation to Armenians by the Ottomans (sabout race) and later got focused on the genocidal project aimed at the Jews. It wasn't coincidental at so many Jews were killed. They were chosen due to race, even if they were good at chess and being a doctor and were anti.communist.
The term was specifically used to refer to genocidal race based killing, that is on a broad scale. That is what the term meant. It did not mean, the killing done by the Nazis on any grounds. It was focused primarily on the Jews because this was the most ambitious facet of the racial killing I would guess also that since Roma, for example, were killed in smaller numbers, had little lobbying power in countries like the US - which is where the term arose - and even whose deaths might not have been noticed so well internationally during the war when the term was first used to describe, yes, the genocidal racist killing of Jews.
That's what the term was intended to be used for.
What you and many other are not aware of (or don't want to be for many) is that the National Socialists and Facists BASED their ideal on the assumption that the Jew were themselves a 'fascist' group considering they close off their community and aim to FAVOR their own (as would be expected of most people in such groups). They are ALL 'cults' to me given I don't think religion itself is anything rational except for a means to manipulate. So the fact that the JEWS themselves interpreted themselves as a 'race' is NOT merely from the Nazis but a reflection of their own "supremacy"!! Israel IS just such a clearly FACIST state.
If this keeps up, I don't wonder why their is a rise of fascism from the non-Jewish whites: I would be more surprised that we DON'T have them. The SOLUTION should be to RESPECT the fact that "hate"-isms can ONLY come about from (1) a concentration of wealth and power to some EXCLUSIVE subset of people who pass on INHERITANCE to their OWN ONLY, and (2) the opposing concentration of another subset of people(s) getting too big on the IMPOVERISHED side of the population. The hate cannot occur WITHOUT a belief in ISOLATING FAVOR to one's own genetic supremacy
I think you may be not be reading me correctly for maybe finding my vocabulary too hard for you to follow. I should have not have responded to you in particular given your past 'hateful' responses of most comments you make here in this forum. [I don't know if you actual 'hate', but often speak up with the kind of behavior that is easy to INTERPRET as 'angry' retorts.]
I assure you that I do not agree with the actual 'white supremacist' kind of anger that only stereotypically gets reflected as 'hate'; I am arguing here WHY it is unfair to presume 'white supremacists' exists as the dominating threat. If you are some 'supremacist' yourself, I also disapprove of you given it ADDS the fuel to the fire of those you hate.