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[Luxin]

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[Luxin]

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[Luxin]

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[Dubious]

This must be how eternal recurrence got started!

It never needed to recur since it never changed and therefore remained the same!

[Luxin]

Sorry dear man, you're brilliant and spotted my inconsistency. I cannot answer your enquiries.

Forgive me please, and take care.

Luxin.

[Walker]

This must be how eternal recurrence got started!

It never needed to recur since it never changed and therefore remained the same!

Feedback:

Whatever happened, had to have happened.
A wheel must turn before returning.
The past changes in the present.

[Dubious]

This must be how eternal recurrence got started!

It never needed to recur since it never changed and therefore remained the same!

Feedback:

Whatever happened, had to have happened.
A wheel must turn before returning.
The past changes in the present.

Eternal Recurrence is simply an idea we invented. In Nietzsche's version, it was used mostly as a challenge in how much do you love your life if you were informed that it will repeat forever.

[Walker]

Eternal Recurrence is simply an idea we invented. In Nietzsche's version, it was used mostly as a challenge in how much do you love your life if you were informed that it will repeat forever.

Recurrence implies a beginning, so eternal recurrance implies a beginning but no ending, which explains the Christian belief that when born again one is born to eternal life.

[Dubious]

Eternal Recurrence is simply an idea we invented. In Nietzsche's version, it was used mostly as a challenge in how much do you love your life if you were informed that it will repeat forever.

Recurrence implies a beginning, so eternal recurrance implies a beginning but no ending, which explains the Christian belief that when born again one is born to eternal life.

How can something eternal have a beginning and since when, except in medieval times, has Christian belief ever made sense. It was never meant to be logical but only, on a purely psychic level, believable. Based on all the weird crap people believe in these days, it makes perfect sense that people from long ago believed as they did; their stories were far grander than what we have feeding us today. Their intelligence no less than ours, the only difference, they were far less confused in their understanding of a world divinely ruled, than the real one we have facing us today.

[Walker]

How can something eternal have a beginning ...

Anything that recurs, first must occur.

- The first occurance of something is the creation of that something, not the recurrance of that something.
- After the occurance happens the first time, then for reality to correlate with the concept of eternal, recurrence would continue on without end.

[Walker]

How can something eternal have a beginning and since when, except in medieval times, has Christian belief ever made sense.

It makes sense to those who speak religion lingo, in the same way that dark matter, which has never had a relationship with any of the five senses, makes sense to those who speak STEM lingo.

The lingos of both religion and STEM function on a premise. For religion, a creator is based on the premise that creation must have a creator. For STEM, dark matter is based on the premise that the universe must fit the limitations of STEM explanations.

[Dubious]

How can something eternal have a beginning ...

Anything that recurs, first must occur.

- The first occurance of something is the creation of that something, not the recurrance of that something.
- After the occurance happens the first time, then for reality to correlate with the concept of eternal, recurrence would continue on without end.

Yes! The way you put it does make sense. However, as thought experiments go it does contain a seeming paradox in the sense that if the universe were eternal it does not mandate the idea that any presumed type of eternal recurrence is possible or probable within it. That would require an operational universe, not one whose density and energy will become so low and tenuous, caused by the dilution of an expanding universe, where in the end, all that's left is the cold, empty space that's doomed to last forever.

These are questions which have no relevance to life or philosophy, but as an abstraction, interesting to ponder nonetheless...at least, I think so.

[Age]

How can something eternal have a beginning ...

Anything that recurs, first must occur.

- The first occurance of something is the creation of that something, not the recurrance of that something.
- After the occurance happens the first time, then for reality to correlate with the concept of eternal, recurrence would continue on without end.

Yes! The way you put it does make sense. However, as thought experiments go it does contain a seeming paradox in the sense that if the universe were eternal it does not mandate the idea that any presumed type of eternal recurrence is possible or probable within it. That would require an operational universe, not one whose density and energy will become so low and tenuous, caused by the dilution of an expanding universe, where in the end, all that's left is the cold, empty space that's doomed to last forever.

But, the existing eternal Universe does not expand, and could not ever expand.

These are questions which have no relevance to life or philosophy, but as an abstraction, interesting to ponder nonetheless...at least, I think so.

[Dubious]

Anything that recurs, first must occur.

- The first occurance of something is the creation of that something, not the recurrance of that something.
- After the occurance happens the first time, then for reality to correlate with the concept of eternal, recurrence would continue on without end.

Yes! The way you put it does make sense. However, as thought experiments go it does contain a seeming paradox in the sense that if the universe were eternal it does not mandate the idea that any presumed type of eternal recurrence is possible or probable within it. That would require an operational universe, not one whose density and energy will become so low and tenuous, caused by the dilution of an expanding universe, where in the end, all that's left is the cold, empty space that's doomed to last forever.

But, the existing eternal Universe does not expand, and could not ever expand.

These are questions which have no relevance to life or philosophy, but as an abstraction, interesting to ponder nonetheless...at least, I think so.

How do you know that?

[Walker]

How can something eternal have a beginning ...

Anything that recurs, first must occur.

- The first occurance of something is the creation of that something, not the recurrance of that something.
- After the occurance happens the first time, then for reality to correlate with the concept of eternal, recurrence would continue on without end.

Yes! The way you put it does make sense. However, as thought experiments go it does contain a seeming paradox in the sense that if the universe were eternal it does not mandate the idea that any presumed type of eternal recurrence is possible or probable within it. That would require an operational universe, not one whose density and energy will become so low and tenuous, caused by the dilution of an expanding universe, where in the end, all that's left is the cold, empty space that's doomed to last forever.

These are questions which have no relevance to life or philosophy, but as an abstraction, interesting to ponder nonetheless...at least, I think so.

Entropy is one side of the coin. The other side is the intelligence inherent within matter that becomes a self-perpetuating collector and organizer of energy, displayed in orderings of form that appear as stars, and life.

From what I gather, the intelligence is what organizes the Higgs field.

Say it. G... G... G...