slavery

[Advocate]

Slavery existed almost everywhere in history until whites abolished it. Blacks should support white power.

[henry quirk]

Slavery existed almost everywhere in history until whites abolished it. Blacks should support white power.

slavery still exists, and thrives, almost everywhere

outlawin' it in certain places only pushed it underground

[Advocate]

[quote="henry quirk" post_id=471981 time=1600438498 user_id=472]
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Slavery existed almost everywhere in history until whites abolished it. Blacks should support white power.
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slavery still exists, and thrives, almost everywhere

outlawin' it in certain places only pushed it underground
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"only"?

[henry quirk]

Slavery existed almost everywhere in history until whites abolished it. Blacks should support white power.

slavery still exists, and thrives, almost everywhere

outlawin' it in certain places only pushed it underground

"only"?

yep, only...banning didn't stop it or blunt it...banning only forced a shift in business model

[Advocate]

[quote="henry quirk" post_id=472021 time=1600443856 user_id=472]
[quote=Advocate post_id=472015 time=1600442792 user_id=15238]
[quote="henry quirk" post_id=471981 time=1600438498 user_id=472]


slavery still exists, and thrives, almost everywhere

outlawin' it in certain places only pushed it underground
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"only"?
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yep, [i]only[/i]...banning didn't stop it or blunt it...banning only forced a shift in [i]business model[/i]
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Your argument doesn't admit of nuance. Taken to its logical extreme it would ban banning anything by appeal to uselessness.

[RCSaunders]

Your argument doesn't admit of nuance. Taken to its logical extreme it would ban banning anything by appeal to uselessness.

That's right. No government, "ban," ever ended or can end anything. You cannot change people by passing laws, matter how much force you use. Drugs are banned. Banning doesn't work and is, just as you say, useless, except for the damage it always does.

[Advocate]

[quote=RCSaunders post_id=472025 time=1600450299 user_id=16196]
[quote=Advocate post_id=472024 time=1600449525 user_id=15238]
Your argument doesn't admit of nuance. Taken to its logical extreme it would ban banning anything by appeal to uselessness.
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That's right. No government, "ban," ever ended or can end anything. You cannot change people by passing laws, matter how much force you use. Drugs are banned. Banning doesn't work and is, just as you say, useless, except for the damage it always does.
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Do we want to talk about chemical weapons plans yet? There's a legitimate place for absolute bans that cannot do more harm than they prevent.

[henry quirk]

"only"?

yep, only...banning didn't stop it or blunt it...banning only forced a shift in business model

Your argument doesn't admit of nuance. Taken to its logical extreme it would ban banning anything by appeal to uselessness.

bans, enacted by gov, of anything, are useless

slavery is just plain wrong: it's an evil that men of will and conscience must address; it's not a political issue to be dickered over by reeds that bend in the wind