RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:42 pm
How many times do I have to repeat,
I DO NOT BELIEVE ANY THING, before this most simple of sayings becomes understood?
It seems you may be confusing the word, "believe," with the word, "faith."
I am NOT confusing ANY thing, here.
When I say I do NOT believe any thing, then I MEAN I do NOT believe any thing.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
The two words are sometimes interchanged, but they are not synonyms.
I KNOW, and this is WHY I chose the actual words that I did, and do.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
In general English usage, what one, "believes," is what they honestly think or what they regard to be correct, and nothing more.
And, in general english usage, when one says that they believe some thing, then I will question them WHY believe some thing is true when it may not be true at all?
I will also point out that if what one "believes" is just "what they honestly 'think' is correct", or is just "what they regard to be correct", and nothing more, then it would be far better if they just said what they actually meant, and nothing more, instead of saying what they do NOT actually mean at all. I also point out that if they did this, then they would NOT cause as much confusion and/or conflict as they are.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
If you say you don't believe anything, to most English speakers, it means there is nothing you think is so or correct and that whatever you say, it is not what you really think or mean.
Well, if this is true, then most english speakers twist and distort what I ACTUALLY say, and MEAN, around to some thing, which is so NOT what I mean.
Why do 'you', majority of english speakers, twist what I say around to mean the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I actually say, and so actually mean.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
Now you may claim, like Belinda, that you don't know anything,
But WHY would I claim some thing that I do NOT even consider to be true?
By the way. I do NOT claim this. So, anything more you have to say would just be moot.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
but if you do claim to know something, in English, that is what you believe, what you think is so.
But this is completely and utterly WRONG, from my perspective. This is because I can VERY EASILY and VERY SIMPLY claim to KNOW some thing, AND, also say that this is NOT what I believe, which I have ALREADY DONE, by the way.
I CAN and DO claim this because of what the words 'know' and 'believe' actually mean, to me.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
Believe does not mean to simply accept something as so, it means whatever you regard as true or correct,
Is this an absolute True fact, or just what you regards as true or correct?
See, to me the word 'believe' does relate to 'believing' some as so, true, right, and/or correct'. I am not sure if you noticed just how closely related the words 'believe' and 'believing' were here. But if you did not notice, then maybe you can now.
To me if some one 'believes' some thing to be true or correct, or, 'regards' some thing to be true or correct, then they are two DIFFERENT things, which MEANS two DIFFERENT things. This is EVIDENCED and can be CLEARLY SEEN by the two DIFFERENT words 'believe' and 'accept'.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
however you arrived at that conclusion.
By this, are you saying that I arrived at the same conclusion? Or, are you wondering what way I arrived at that conclusion?
By the way, the very reason I do NOT believe ANY thing to be true or correct, nor regard any thing to be true or correct (in the sense that it IS true or correct) is because if I were to do this, then I would NOT be OPEN to ANY thing else but that. And, OBVIOUSLY if and when one is NOT open, then they are CLOSED.
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm
So, if you insist you do not believe anything, it means there is nothing you regard as true or correct.
If this is what you BELIEVE is true or correct, then so be it.
But, just remember, what you BELIEVE is true or correct, then this does NOT make 'it', necessarily, true, nor correct.