Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

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Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

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Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

You may use whatever set of commandments you think Yahweh gave. There are a number of renditions.

As for the Gnostic commandments, I offer the following.

1. You shall place no commandments above these unless proven to be morally superior.
2. You shall value all people as equal before the law. The inequality of outcome is punishment enough of itself.
3. You shall live by the golden rule and respond with reciprocity of harm or care to what is done to you.
4. Use Gnosis and put logic and reason and their proofs above faith, which by its nature has no proofs, logic or reason.
5. You shall leave the environment in a better condition than what is given to you as an inheritance to your next generation.
6. You shall not impoverish the next generation and live according to the means you produce as their labor and wealth is theirs and not yours to squander.

Gnostic Christianity and free thinking lost the God wars when the Orthodox Church decimated us and burned most of our scriptures. I think that Gnostic Christians had a superior set of commandments then as well as now. Those commandments were not only meant for seekers after a God but also a guide to secular law. Both secular law and Christianity seemed to ignore the second commandment of equality till our modern era. As a Gnostic Christian, I ask (rhetorically), what took the world so long to catch up to Gnostic Christian thinking and what is Islam and other backwards thinking people waiting for.

Many have a problem with the 10 commandments given by Yahweh so I thought I would see if there is a consensus of thought on the Gnostic Christian ideology as compared to the Christian ideology. The main complaints I see are that Yahweh’s commandments have created a Christian ideology that denies gays and women equality. I think all souls to be created equal and thus deserving of equal human statue and citizenship.

Others as seen in these two link have their own views and I would add that I think Yahweh’s no divorce policy, --- which Jesus confirms. --- and Yahweh’s policy of accepting bribes, ransoms or sacrifices (these are all analogue) to alter his usual and moral policy punishing the guilty and not the innocent, --- to the immoral policy of punishing the innocent instead of the guilty, as exemplified by his accepting Jesus as a sacrifice to save sinners whom God himself created to be sinners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3z69YpLx0#t=100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

Thanks in advance for your reply.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:12 pm Follow the Almighty Buck in the US.

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Greatest I am wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:37 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:12 pm Follow the Almighty Buck in the US.

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I don't want anybody's commandments, Greatest, take them away.
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Any commandment anywhere sucks to high heaven:
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." -Revelation 17:17, a description of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns in chapter and verse.
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bobevenson wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:10 pm
"For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will,"
No commandments and no fulfilling God's will, I hate being told what to do.
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Sorry, God's will is already in your heart, but it is the false prophets of our institutions that prevent it from being fulfilled à la Billy Graham.
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bobevenson wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:38 pm God's will is already in your heart,
My heart, my will.
but it is the false prophets of our institutions that prevent it from being fulfilled à la Billy Graham.
Billy Graham is all yours. It's not that we don't have our own nutters in GB but we can't match yours for craziness.
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Harbal wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:53 pm
bobevenson wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:38 pm God's will is already in your heart,
My heart, my will.
Strictly an illusion, my friend, strictly an illusion.
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bobevenson wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:19 pm
Harbal wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:53 pm
bobevenson wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:38 pm God's will is already in your heart,
My heart, my will.
Strictly an illusion, my friend, strictly an illusion.
Yes, I know.
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The BEST commandments to live by, as far as I've lived by commandments:

1. Thou shalt not put thy cup or drink on the finished wood of the coffee table without using a coaster.
2. Thou shalt not walk across the freshly washed kitchen floor.
3. Thou shalt not play with thy food, drinks, penis, at the dinner table.
4. Do finish all thy homework and chores before dinner.
5. If thou sassest, thou're cruisin' for a bruisin'.
6. Shut up or I shalt slap thou into next Tuesday.
7. Thou shalt be raised by a toothless, bearded hag.
8. Thy school shalt be a strap across thy back.
9. But it's all right... in fact it's a gas
10. 'Coz thou art Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's a gas, gas, gas.
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