Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:59 amGreta
Double standards. Besides, agape love is naturally always the same, no matter the conduit.
But what is agape love and how does it differ from secular love?
"Christian" and "secular" are tribal labels and, often, affiliations. Agape love is universal. I thought you might have known that.
Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:59 amChristian, as you have said many times.
I am not a Christian. I am a pre-Christian. I am attracted to the great depth and purpose of Christianity but unable to follow in the precepts of Christ. I am a pre-Christian with the potential to become Christian.
John Lennon said it, Nick - all you need is love. Or at least goodwill. Or at least not to feel hostile about most people and things.
The problem is that humans are damn hard work. They are amazing beings, even the very stupid ones, but our "wiring" makes us difficult. That is, our urge to control the behaviour of others to fit one's particular idea of a good member of society. There is constant pressure, cajoling, pushing, bullying, a plethora of manipulations, etc from all quarters - demands for others to stay within the bounds that they think are important.
Personally, I love animals and humans are animals, so I have sympathy for them, despite some mistreatment that threw me off course for a few decades. However, life is easier and usually better for me when I limit your exposure to other humans to tolerable levels. We are not bad IMO so much as difficult and naive. I believe that most people mean well and try to do the right thing as far as they know.
Nick_A wrote:Indulging in the reckless luxury of hatred you try to claim it is for the sake of others. Tough love. The hard wake up call.
I put topics up related to ideas expressed by the list of characters because they are necessary. Even if they are hated by secularists they cannot just vanish from philosophy for the sake of secular intolerance.
No, you simply routinely spew bile and hatred with occasional interesting snippets from Plato and Simone Weil.
The hatred has nothing to do with "secularists" or any other victims of your hate speech. It's you. You can't hide from this with tricky turnarounds. "It's not me, it's YOU!" games. Not this time.
Everyone on the forum has seen your hatred flow nonstop over the month or more. I am merely pointing out the obvious that others here are probably too bored and sensible to say. No offence, but most would be thinking "Why poke a rabid dog in the eye?" and leave you to it. I suppose I'm stuck with you, being your primary target of self-righteous fury.
I admit to being prone to ham-fisted sledgehammer diplomacy, but I don't hate for long. Maybe a day or two at best. No, lasting hatred an attribute of
yours, not mine, but you avoid owning it because that would involve casting your judgemental eye within rather than at everyone else.