SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2017 1:58 amVendetta wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2017 12:43 am
That isn't cherry picking information for their benefit, that is simply the way that exchanges between people work.
You're a newbie, IC's been here since Sep 2013, I've been here since Sep 2011. We have a little bit of a history. Again you're a newbie! Welcome of course, but you really don't have a say in age old rivals business, unless you've read EVERYTHING!! Have you read EVERYTHING? I thought not! Then please quit sucking up to your butt buddy, as he's quite capable of handling himself! Dig it?
you're just a newbie taking up for his butt buddy! So now we're up to date as to each of our motivations!
In fact, if we are talking about avoiding points of view to make yours seem most correct, you yourself are an excellent example of such. Formulating ad hominem attacks such as accusing your opposition of being schizophrenic will never get anyone to see your side in the argument.
No you idiot, Schizophrenics hear voices in their heads, it was not a personal attack, it's aimed at those that say they have heard their fucked up god in their heads, and that it's their proof he exists. How could they say they know? You need to get an education, my friend, because it's sorely lacking! One has to know the definitions of words before they can understand how they apply, my friend! Or are you just like him, a liar? I'll keep an eye on your newbieness and let you know the verdict, as I see how you interact with other old time regulars!
You seem very adamant that God doesn't exist.
No, I believe that a mindful intentional creator of all that is, is possible. And I equally see that it's possible that there isn't, that it's just the nature of a mindless non-intentional universe. But I certainly see that mans god is a bunch of archaic antiquated bullshit, created by a relatively ignorant bunch, of long long dead people, that used to believe in many, many gods. My position only stands to reason, considering the history of those times!
What is your evidence to support such ardent disbelief?
Show me this invisible god of yours? Prove that he exists! Prove that leprechauns, faeries, pixies, trolls, and hobbits exist! What? You can't! Hmmm. Well you got me there!
I am having a hard time discerning any reasonable logic through your slew of insults and childish prattle.
So the newbie butt buddy proclaims, so what? Prove that your god exists! The burden of proof is yours! Surely not mine! Tell me of the invisible people that I say exists, and I'll show you a liar and a fool!
You say that there is definitely no God and that anyone who believes such is an idiot?
No, only mans god. You see, I differentiate, between mans creator he's called god, and the true creator of all. They are clearly two separate entities!
Fine. Prove it.
The burden of proof is on you believers in your god, not I, that says simply you can't know it, that you simply believe in it! If I said I saw a real live alien from a planet far away, would you believe I know? Would you believe that the burden of proof is mine, or yours, that there is no such invisible entity?
I find it rather interesting that you seem to believe that your opinion stands for what all humans can and should know, given that you haven't brought forth any semblance of actual, sound logic.
Believers in invisible entities, obviously wouldn't know sound logic, if it bit them on their crazy ass's!
I have no slant towards or against either you or Immanuel Can. The reason I respond is that I'm intrigued and want to bring forth my stance, not because I feel the need to help or "suck up to" Immanuel Can. This just is a philosophy forum... What would I gain from that? I simply find your comments equally as ah... perplexing. Considering my apparent irrelevance given that I'm new, if I were to suck up to Immanel Can, it wouldnt really have much impact now, would it? Same goes for all your other "old time regulars."
You do appear to be quite agitated at this point in time, sir. Perhaps if we drop the slander and discuss this like good men, you may actually be able to get your point across. Becuase so far, the insults don't seem to be working.... In fact, I find the consistent slew of disparagement to be rather laughable. I mean, come on.
This is a philosophy forum, so where, I ask, is the philosophy?
Hark! But wait! Amidst the blabber you seemed to have actually formulated some semblance of an argument!
You say that you
"differentiate, between mans creator he's called god, and the true creator of all."
So, you do believe in some sort of creator. Perhaps you'd expand on this, especially given that the basis of much of this discussion has been you calling those who believe in a deity to be schizophrenic. You're being contradictory now, so maybe you'd ought to clarify for us. That is, if you can.