attofishpi wrote:...there wouldn't be a Christmas if it weren't for the Christians and Christ.
True enough. Were it not for that myth, we might be celebrating Saturnalia, Yule, Modraniht, Disablot, Shab-e Yalda or any of a range of festivals to mark the longest night and the birth of a new Sun. The Sun and God were pretty much the same thing in the ancient world; the proto indo-european word dyeu is the etymological root of the Latin Deus, Greek Zeus, French Dieu and English day. Some people argue that Jesus is from the same root; it's a bit tenuous, but one thing is certain, it wasn't spelt with a J, because that letter was only invented in 1524. One way or another, we would be getting together around the winter solstice to eat and drink too much. Whatever the reason, it's party time. Cheers everybody!