A woman who changed the world

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A woman who changed the world

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A woman who changed the world, Helen Gurely Brown. She was the Hugh Hefner of and for women:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/busin ... 90.html?hp

Her legacy: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/magaz ... world.html?
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A woman who brought out mixed emotions in me :? .

Yes, her work could be empowering and I still treasure my Cosmopolitan Survival Guide after all these years however, no matter how liberating her advice, she still sold the line that the ultimate goal for a woman was to bag a man for life :roll: .
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She went on to hold a string of secretarial jobs — 17 by her own count — and discovered the measure of security that sex could bring. At every office, or so it seemed, there were bosses eager to fondle and dandle. In exchange, there might be a fur or an apartment or the wherewithal to keep her family going a little longer.

I loathe women like her.
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reasonvemotion wrote:I loathe women like her.
why

prostitution is honest work not perhaps the most pleasant or healthy

women will often end up in it as a job of last resort but that is hardly a reason to loathe them
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not perhaps the most pleasant or healthy
how that rolls off your tongue.....LOL

Prostitution never entered my head when I responded to this post. Technically, you could say she "prostituted herself",but her motive was usually greed. I know women like her. In reality she was a long way off the traditional prostitute's modus operandi.

I had the opportunity to photograph prostitutes when I was involved in photography. I went to the brothels and spoke with some of the women. Not one did it for a "fur coat". All, did it to keep a drug habit going or for a pimp or just to survive, modestly. It is a profession usually involving women who have been abused by a male. In their mind this is way to have dominence over a male. There is great camaraderie amongst the women and it is not always done as a last resort, there are many ways women can become victim to it. I have great compassion for these women and recognise the baseness, violence and danger they have to endure.
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reasonvemotion wrote:
not perhaps the most pleasant or healthy
how that rolls off your tongue.....LOL

Prostitution never entered my head when I responded to this post. Technically, you could say she "prostituted herself",but her motive was usually greed. I know women like her. In reality she was a long way off the traditional prostitute's modus operandi.

I had the opportunity to photograph prostitutes when I was involved in photography. I went to the brothels and spoke with some of the women. Not one did it for a "fur coat". All, did it to keep a drug habit going or for a pimp or just to survive, modestly. It is a profession usually involving women who have been abused by a male. In their mind this is way to have dominence over a male. There is great camaraderie amongst the women and it is not always done as a last resort, there are many ways women can become victim to it. I have great compassion for these women and recognise the baseness, violence and danger they have to endure.
Like "gay" men who formerly were known as "homosexuals," women who formerly were "prostitutes" are now known as "sex workers." However, the reality of their lives remains unchanged.
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Prostitution

From Wikipedia,


A prostitute (also called hooker, whore, ho, street walker, sex worker or escort) is a person, most of the time a woman, who has sex with people for money. Prostitution is sometimes called the "world's oldest profession". There are written records of it in almost every culture and society.
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tbieter wrote:
Like "gay" men who formerly were known as "homosexuals," women who formerly were "prostitutes" are now known as "sex workers." However, the reality of their lives remains unchanged.
I'm not sure if there is a connection here..? Being 'gay' and being a 'sex worker'... one's inborn sexual attraction and one's 'professional' means to make money... what's your point, tbeiter?
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I think he is showing us he is moderrrrn.
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mtmynd1 wrote:
tbieter wrote:
Like "gay" men who formerly were known as "homosexuals," women who formerly were "prostitutes" are now known as "sex workers." However, the reality of their lives remains unchanged.
I'm not sure if there is a connection here..? Being 'gay' and being a 'sex worker'... one's inborn sexual attraction and one's 'professional' means to make money... what's your point, tbeiter?
I was making a point about language usage. The word "homosexual" stigmatized the individual; "gay" doesn't. Likewise with "sex worker" and "prostitute". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_worker_rights

I was agreeing with reasonemotion's comment about their underlying reality, or "the baseness, violence and danger they have to endure."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_worker_rights

After I posted my comment, I thought about the issue of decriminalizing prostitution. I wondered about Nevada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Char ... tes_Rights
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