...you imagine an "alpha male", according to the ideals you were raised in,
tell me what are those "ideals" you imagine, Omega?
...you imagine an "alpha male", according to the ideals you were raised in,
Hi reasonvemotion,reasonvemotion wrote:Of course there always is the exception to a rule and he is the Alpha. He would be one of the few men she will glady submit to. There is a problem, there are so few of them.Bottom line you can't have both an 'alpha male' and a stronger feminine type which has controlled the alpha male. It's either/or...
Exactly. A woman creates the so called 'alpha male'. He doesn't exist.Satyr wrote: I adore him in my mind where he exists.
but you are mistaking Omega's opinion as if it were absolute. I see the Alpha as not necessarily being "macho", I think someone said previously this was a superficial attribute and it is fleeting, not permanent, so this would not be in my understanding of the term Alpha. Something has emerged from all this, in my opinion, you may disagree. Omega's constant attempts to devalue women and his audacious descriptions of how we think, feel and act is, I think, his absolute inability to understand us. Omega's struggle with women is .....should I hate them, should I allow myself to sucumb to their pleasures and his own sexuality. This surfaces as hatred, strong and passionate. Which leaves a person to wonder if it is a latent homosexuality. He is certainly fixated on a person's sexual preference, (mainly the men on this forum) whatever the problem, it won't go away by abusing others. How funny he is when he tries to tell us about ourselves as women. What does a man know about that. Reminds me of the homosexual beauticians in department stores, explaining how to apply makeup, etc. LOLMy point is that...if there is such a thing as the 'alpha male' in human nature, it would not be possible for him to lose stature in that way at all or he would NOT be an alpha male.
What sort of work would this be?I work in a place where by law they have to hire and give work or females who cannot do the work. Men must then pick-up the slack, and get paid equally.
Why not start or organise a union and do something about it? Although from the sounds of it you must be working in some government non-job as I doubt a private enterprise would support such a thing. No idea why you keep referring to me as where I work men and women do the same job and get the same pay, those who are incompetent get fired pretty tout suite.the goaturder wrote:Dear, imbecile, I work in a job which is physically demanding. Females are routinely called in to do the same job for the same pay, but being unable to do it the men, me included, have to pick up the slack.
So, we are supposed to do the same job for the same pay but they cannot, therefore males, being the noble knights, are looked upon to do "what is right"...in other words preserve the illusion that cunts, like you, can do the exact same job in the exact same way...when all that is done is that we get paid the same.
Not at all, a completely different concept and one that aims at a meritocracy.the goaturder wrote:What a euphemism for lowering the bar so that niggers can be included and fill in some quota that supposedly proves how "open minded" and "fair" we are. ...
More fool you 'males' then. Where I come from we'd not help and they'd be sacked for not being able to do the job. What a bunch of wussies you and your workmates sound.the goaturder wrote:like those females at my work. They sued the institution to get the "right" to do my job...and then most of them either could not or insisted knowing that males would help them.
Where are these testing standards being used?the goaturder wrote:To include niggers in the social fabric, dear, they lower the testing standards.
Why did you think I used it idiot?the goaturder wrote:"If" being the operative term, twat.
My apologies loon, I meant slack as in slack-brained or incompetent, things that I've experienced with both genders in the workplace.the goaturder wrote:Laziness is not the same as incompetence, moron.
I doubt it loon as we aren't North Americans(I know you say you are a bubble canuck but from your thoughts I think you a Yank) and still have some sanity about such matters. But not the same loon as there is little wrong with the idea of being paid the same if you can do the same job. Although the feminists have still not achieved this in the majority of cases, mainly I think because they were hi-jacked by the Yank female.the goaturder wrote:Oh but you will moron, you will. You might already have it under a different name...like "equal pay for equal work".
So? You've not addressed my point that one can become better at IQ tests and as such shows them to be fairly variable things.the goaturder wrote:The typical liberal twang, you ****.
Culture, another way of saying "nurture".
"Decades" Thats not even a full generation numbnuts. How long did it take for the working-class whites to become educated and aspirational?the goaturder wrote:Moron, it's been decades of integration where do niggers reach parity, except in forced inclusion and forced social behavioral standards which inhibit greatness so that niggers and females do not get left out.
Must it? Could it not be that those you talk about are from outside the culture and these 'niggers' that you talk about are inside the culture and are the whipping boys for those who fail themselves.the goaturder wrote:Other "visible minorities" don't seem to be as affected by culture, retard.
It must be something innate.
Historians are beginning to think the Saharan region had a very high level of civilization and that the Egyptians were the refuges from a ecological collapse. But you'd have to define what you mean by "civilization" in this instance? As this 'European' civilization would not have existed without the Moselm is my thought. Still, my take is that such things are the coincidence of many factors and searching for single answers is the aim of the absolutist. One who mainly just wishes to justify their previous bigotry and opinions.the goaturder wrote:How does culture explain why there has never been a civilization on the level of a European or Asian one in the sub-Saharan region?
Could it be that they were under a racist misogynistic patriarchy? But Madame Curie, Mary Seacole and this lot give the lie to your thoughts, http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinve ... entors.htmthe goaturder wrote:How does culture explain that no n*****, or female, has ever created or invented or thought of an idea that revolutionized mankind and man's thinking?
I doubt it as I think the Chinese will probably be running it all.the goaturder wrote:Let's give it a few more centuries, shall we? By then race mixing and globalization would have done its magic and parity would be a fact.
You live in a fantasy straw-world of your own posey.the goaturder wrote:There's nothing like diluting gold in stone to achieve uniform crap.
At least I'm not repeating what was just said? So we agree, education should be taken away from the whites and given to the yellow and browns for the sake of improvement. In fact we should just let the browns and yellows run things given they are brighter by your IQ standards. Just to check, you think the white and the brown the same race?the goaturder wrote:I would support superiority.
By the way, retard, Asians have higher I.Q. scores than Europeans and Indians are part of the Indo-European race.
I know you think you know where I'm coming from, but given your performances so far, you are definitely clueless.
You are just a mindless moron, hell-bent on preserving the ideal she benefits from, only focusing on the pluses and not on the potential minuses.
What are they in India and China? Who do you think was in the prisons before the Black man was enslaved? The poorest of the poor as ever.the goaturder wrote:Really twat?
Have you seen the statistics on prison populations?
What a vile piece of work you are! From the look of recent history the Black appears a much more humane animal than the White would have been in the same circumstances. Its why the white shits himself so much about Blacks, they judge them by their own lights. Still, over here it was about 50/50 but it depended upon area for the racial mix but then we are much more egalitarian about such things. What riots in canuckland did you have?the goaturder wrote:But, moron, when you train an animal to eat with a fork and to wear pajamas and to shit in the toilet, it does not stop being a chimp...you just did a good job training it to behave in accordance to how you think a human should behave.Take away the master and see how fast it reverts to shitting on the carpet, eating with its hands and going buck naked. Watch riots...how many niggers do you see amongst the looters?
What finished slavery off over here was when some white man started tossing humans over the side like cargo. I take it you are in favour of the return of slavery then?the goaturder wrote:The same principles that freed the black man are the ones that liberated females. It's the same Judeo-Christian, nihilistic, anti-nature crap, which is also behind communism and this Venus Project shit and your Liberalism, retard.
Not my line but you keep chatting to yourself and your strawmen.the goaturder wrote:Same shit: all equal under God or state or King.
In the 'primitive' societies that we have managed to encounter all are involved in the raising of the young and all forage for food when necessary. That the man generally hunts is a truth but all are needed to survive.the goaturder wrote:Twat, females in natural environments supported each other in raising the young.
I can understand this but think it more a consequence that the tribal unit had enlarged.the goaturder wrote:Then the modern lifestyles began with the extended family formed around the pair-bonding of heterosexuality: father/mother...grandparents and children. In paganism the family extended further.
I agree and as such you must be appreciating that the modern women is now recreating that extended female support because the male is absent and without a role in the technological society.the goaturder wrote:With this method of divide and conquer the family structure was twiddled down to the nuclear family...one father, one mother, children. Everyone else excluded. The female became more dependent on the male because she had no female support.
Didn't say I liked Capitalism any more than you. What are your solutions? Other than just whining.the goaturder wrote:Now we go further...reproduction is no longer even a factor. Two women and their cats= family ....two ass-jockeys adopting a poor child = family.
One woman and her partner=family.
It's all down to ONE...with all else being add-on accessories, replaceable parts. Take nozzle b insert in hose A or then discard nozzle B and choose nozzle c, insert again.
There is no family...we are all supposed to be married to Jesus and if not Him then to the State...we must be career oriented and productive consumers. this is our family.
So? How does that affect my point?the goaturder wrote:Marx was the first sing of Modernity, twat.
Nothing to do with their religion not having usury as a sin then and as such being one of the few professions they were allowed. Typical anti-semite you are turning out to be even with your cry of anti-christianity.the goaturder wrote:No coincidence that Marx, like Jesus, was a Jew...and how many Jews are bankers?
That Roman pagan appear to like incest, pederasty, sodomy, paedophilia, et al, so much like this modern world that you say is due to Christianity and Humanism?the goaturder wrote:The pagan, more natural, man, was infected back in Rome, twat. Since then its been a slow retreat towards uniform nothing.
Do they? Well you go chat to them then. I say reproduction evolved to reproduce species and we call ours sex. As such this primates sex appears different from the majority or other mammals but maybe close to the bonobos and some dolphins.the goaturder wrote:Some even deny that sex evolved to reproduce a species.
Presumably it evolved for our pleasure...secular hedonism raised to the status God's benevolence.
Atomic bang you loon, keep-up and stop listening to those straw-men in your head.the goaturder wrote:No shit?
Reminds me of the presumption infecting science today.
The only singular Big Bang that happened was the one you hope for in your head when you see Levy.
Who do you see when you look in the mirror then?Twat wrote:Is it Jeebus?
And this shows the little white cultural bubble you live in as the shape and colour you describe would not be attractive across all cultures and history. Note that I disagree that symmetry is not the main factor in things but then we are bipeds.the goaturder wrote:The appreciation of symmetry never changed, twat...all that change is girth. the 7/10 rule still applied, but size means wealth or comfort, just as pale skin did.
Natural standards apply, twat...what form they take within each culture is what changes. Like how sexual roles became gender roles. This does not mean that there is no specialization and division of labor in nature, imbecile, only that men take it, adapt it to their own needs, give it symbols and behavioral standards which directs libidinal energies towards productive, to the system, avenues.
No, equality of pay was because the process was already happening, not a cause. Why? Because we wanted a 24/7 service culture and there aren't enough men to support such a thing. Still, you'll not hear me lauding consumer capitalism and I agree that the main bread-winner should be paid enough so that at least one parent can raise the kids as its becoming a disaster in that area.See, your "equality of pay" is just the next step towards integrating half the productive population into labor slavishness. In the past females were more productive as birthing machines that also maintained a home for the male to feel comfortable in. It was the male's investment in the system.
Now, in a world of 7 billion and with fertilizing technologies on the ready this is no longer necessary. Now females must be returned to servitude next to males...They actually make better workers because they never question why they work or where or how...and their entire identity is built upon servitude.
The one with big muscles and brains. Still, you did say big muscles versus big brains so it would depend if the big brains had time to invent the bow.Twat wrote:Oh twat...so banal.
Fitness is superior.
It depends on your standard, right?
If big muscles are your standard and not big brains then your conception of superior might be different. but does nature care?
Who dominates in a world where big muscles compete against big brains, with no outside interference?
So you agree with the Oriental, White men stink and are hairy apes?Appearance, dumb-ass, is not only visual. When i taste I perceive a divergence, which is coupled with all my other senses to create an appearance....which is not accidental nor superficial...you twat.
Niggers are not niggers only because of their skin pigmentation, you imbecile. It is how they smell, move, think, form, sound etc. you do not say that an apple is different from a pair because of its color only.
Most of the 'work' we do is a human construct, so what? Not sure who you are talking to again? As I say equality of opportunity and equal pay if one does the same job, not equality per se.the goaturder wrote:It is equality which is a human construct, twat....and work parity is also a human construct.
Exactly because you say such things as this.the goaturder wrote:Why do you assume I would not...after I was done vomiting?
You now contradict yourself.the goaturder wrote:Twat, that I am forced to abide by social conventions because my survival depends on it does not make anything I've said less true.
It makes you a coward and a hypocrite. I take it, like Adolf, you are far from the white cultural ideal that you appear to want to promote?the goaturder wrote:If I cannot tell a n***** what he is, to his face, does this make him less of a n***** or does it dismiss what he is?
Why do you keep repeating my point as tho' you are making one?the goaturder wrote:Twat, nepotism is a result of organized human systems which take advantage of morons, like you.
There is no nepotism in nature.
Exactly! And as such we are probably missing out a lot of potential by allowing inequality of opportunity due to the successful coddling and conferring advantage upon their stupider offspring.the goaturder wrote:Genetics offer you a potential, an advantage...they do not ensure that you are successful with them.
But through a nicely blinkered set of lenses.the goaturder wrote:Twats like you assume that views must be preferences...because they are for twats like you.
I do not construct my opinions based no what I like or prefer, twat. I construct them on what I perceive.
What 'rights' do you hear me talk about? That strawman in your head must be mighty loud. You think a lot about rape don't you? But lmao that you say its the Paternalistic system that prevents rape of women as its this system that all but codified it in marriage and allowed all the weak males to have some, all this 'system' does is not allow men to do it to other men's property, no change for the women. I think you have some dystopian 'golden age' or 'natural state' in your head that pretty much did not exist in primitive man. That such things have and do exist is a cultural thing and as such I see no reason why you whinge so much that some cultures have decided to change.the goaturder wrote:But if rape were an option, how "loud mouthed" would you be? How many of your "rights" would you bitch about? It's the big bad Paternalistic system that ensures that men cannot take advantage of your inferiority.
Money is trees and metals? We have wing-suits now. This 'nature' you talk about, what is that then? You one of these tree-huggers who wants to put wolves back into the country-side? Burn the fields and go back to forests?the goaturder wrote:A park is not nature, twat. Once more you confuse preference to reality.
I prefer to be immortal; I prefer to be able to fly with no technological aids; I prefer a home in Fiji; I wish money grew on trees and lambs slaughtered themselves. How fuckin' stupid are you people?
Yup, probable extinction and the Earth given over to another species. So what? Don't tell me! You are a humanist crusading to save the Humanity.the goaturder wrote:Twat, have you even considered what the collateral effects of your "safety and comfort and sheltering" are, or is it all a win-win situation with you and your twat clan?
How has it 'evolved'? I'm guessing its pretty much been the same fun for this primate since dot.the goaturder wrote:Oh my, you are reaching now, aren't you Twat. Am I a christian conservative, Twat?
Twat, sex is a natural mechanism...why does it evolve?
As far as we can tell we've been doing this since dot.the goaturder wrote:Is it so you and your lesbian friends can rub clits together or is it for your faggot father to stick a penis into the orifice he defecates from?
"Bloodline", not a neo-Darwinist then? You saying there is a gene for homosexuality then? If so then what point your spiel about 'christian' culture et al?the goaturder wrote:Twat, whatever genetic weaknesses exist in a bloodline to make homosexuality come about, with the help of environmental conditions, are passed on...basic genetics, Twat.
A family tree with down-syndrome in it has an increase potential to produce a down-syndrome child...and a faggot in the family means that a faggot might come about again.
Not naive enough to think that by now we'd have found a few of these creative nonces and you'd be able to quote them. Especially since the homosexual was in the same position at the time, you know, like you in the closet.the goaturder wrote:How prejudiced of you twat.
Can pedophiles admit they are so?
I think you might be surprised about how many "creative geniuses" - using your standards, like boy asshole or look upon prepubescent girls with a twinkle...your doctor might be one of them. How naive are you, twat?
What they do with their pets is up to them. But you mean you agree with the Christian Bible's proscriptions?the goaturder wrote:Imagine a world where not even bestiality was frowned upon and a family could be reinvented to include household pets...how nice that would be; imagine how many of your neighbors would come out of the closet.
Nice of you to say so but a touch gay methinks.the goaturder wrote:No, you are all bovine, twat....100% beef.
Its what you implied.the goaturder wrote:is that what I said?
I doubt they or anyone gave it a seconds thought.the goaturder wrote:Twat, when your retarded mommy and your screwed-up, douche-bag, effete daddy copulated, did not all consider it their "right" to bear children?
What are you burbling about? If they can find a partner who wishes to have children with them whats it got to do with others? It worked for you or are you saying someone should have stopped you?the goaturder wrote:Whee in nature is there an animal with such divine rights?
Cannot a retard, a cripple, a persona suffering from a rare disease have children and will he not be supported in doing so?
What are you twittering on about now? "Blood" again! You'd have killed(which we pretty much did) or prevented a homosexual being born(if it was possible to identify such things?) who would and did invent the thing that allows you to spew your bile upon the world and attract your fellow ruminants? You'd have done the same to the person who would and did go on to revolutionise Physics?the goaturder wrote:Yes...lets tolerate a billion apes, like you, smashing on typewriter keys in the hope that eventually a great work of art will be produced...but they will never know it, for they are just smashing away mindlessly.
Twat, the idea that intelligence springs out randomly is what makes you feel hopeful about your own blood.
How is that strawman? Nice and loud?the goaturder wrote:Perhaps copulating with a gorilla will be the next step...since if we add the typist primates and canines and cats and all the beast in nature then something brilliant might come about...by accident.
Meritocracy, Twat, would involve no rules imposed from the outside.Twat wrote:Not at all, a completely different concept and one that aims at a meritocracy.
Every time they hire a twat, like you, or a n*****, to meet a quota that says: "We are politically-correct and we do not discriminate."Twat wrote:Where are these testing standards being used?
Twat, I.Q. tests were meant to offer evidence of parity; they failed at that.Twat wrote:So? You've not addressed my point that one can become better at IQ tests and as such shows them to be fairly variable things.
How long did it take Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Italians, Greeks,?Twat wrote:"Decades" Thats not even a full generation numbnuts. How long did it take for the working-class whites to become educated and aspirational?
Having to bow low and hold your tongue and tip-toe around fragile liberalism so as to not draw attention and not cause a stir and not get black-balled.Twat wrote:What 'greatness' is this that you claim has been inhibited?
He who controls history and writes the books controls the consciousness of generations.Twat wrote:Historians are beginning to think the Saharan region had a very high level of civilization and that the Egyptians were the refuges from a ecological collapse. But you'd have to define what you mean by "civilization" in this instance? As this 'European' civilization would not have existed without the Moselm is my thought. Still, my take is that such things are the coincidence of many factors and searching for single answers is the aim of the absolutist. One who mainly just wishes to justify their previous bigotry and opinions.
Ha!!Twat wrote: Could it be that they were under a racist misogynistic patriarchy? But Madame Curie, Mary Seacole and this lot give the lie to your thoughts, http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinve ... entors.htm
Who said anything about taking away or killing or doing violence, you stupid ****?Twat wrote: At least I'm not repeating what was just said? So we agree, education should be taken away from the whites and given to the yellow and browns for the sake of improvement.
The Indians and the Europeans are genetically and culturally closer than Europeans and any other group.Twat wrote: In fact we should just let the browns and yellows run things given they are brighter by your IQ standards. Just to check, you think the white and the brown the same race?
Twat, you claimed Niggers were soft and calm and docile, and I retorted with: "Have you seen the statistics on prisons"?Twat wrote:What are they in India and China? Who do you think was in the prisons before the Black man was enslaved? The poorest of the poor as ever.
All you have are excuses for historical fact, twat.Twat wrote:What a vile piece of work you are! From the look of recent history the Black appears a much more humane animal than the White would have been in the same circumstances. Its why the white shits himself so much about Blacks, they judge them by their own lights.
Twat, slavery was around for centuries before the Niggers themselves hunted down and sold other Niggers to the dreaded white-devil.Twat wrote:What finished slavery off over here was when some white man started tossing humans over the side like cargo. I take it you are in favour of the return of slavery then?
The only one whining and begging for "justice" is you, Twat.Twat wrote:Didn't say I liked Capitalism any more than you. What are your solutions? Other than just whining.
Am I?Twat wrote:Nothing to do with their religion not having usury as a sin then and as such being one of the few professions they were allowed. Typical anti-semite you are turning out to be even with your cry of anti-christianity.
Is that what they all appear to like, twat?Twat wrote:That Roman pagan appear to like incest, pederasty, sodomy, paedophilia, et al, so much like this modern world that you say is due to Christianity and Humanism?
In other words, twat, it acquired another social dimension within social species and only within species with no great environmental threats.Twat wrote:Do they? Well you go chat to them then. I say reproduction evolved to reproduce species and we call ours sex. As such this primates sex appears different from the majority or other mammals but maybe close to the bonobos and some dolphins.
But they are twat, as each hue has a psychological impact.Twat wrote:And this shows the little white cultural bubble you live in as the shape and colour you describe would not be attractive across all cultures and history. Note that I disagree that symmetry is not the main factor in things but then we are bipeds.
Twat, parity of work was made possible with technologies...technologies were male inventions, products of male creativity and rooted in male on male competitiveness.Twat wrote:No, equality of pay was because the process was already happening, not a cause.
And how is anything invented Twat?Twat wrote:The one with big muscles and brains. Still, you did say big muscles versus big brains so it would depend if the big brains had time to invent the bow.
Of course, twat...and Niggers smell like banana peels. Females are flowery in their stench, particularly during that time of the month.Twat wrote:So you agree with the Oriental, White men stink and are hairy apes?
Wow!Twat wrote:I've met black men and women with cut-glass accents and Oxford degrees. I take it they are not 'niggers'?
If you are going to use those emotionally laden words trained into you with an accompanying reaction, then along with Hitler do not forget Holocaust.Twat wrote: It makes you a coward and a hypocrite. I take it, like Adolf, you are far from the white cultural ideal that you appear to want to promote?
Money is trees and metals? We have wing-suits now. This 'nature' you talk about, what is that then? You one of these tree-huggers who wants to put wolves back into the country-side? Burn the fields and go back to forests?[/quote]Your idea of nature, Twat, is a stroll in the park, and a fabulous exhibition of wild-life caged and quarantined so that they retain their pristine purity and their noble savagery.Twat wrote:How fuckin' stupid are you people?
Are you implying, Twat, that mutations - including unfit ones - do not come from environmental influences affecting the replication of genes, passing on these mutations to the offspring?Twat wrote: "Bloodline", not a neo-Darwinist then? You saying there is a gene for homosexuality then? If so then what point your spiel about 'christian' culture et al?
My, my, how dependent you are on the abstract.Twat wrote: You'd have done the same to the person who would and did go on to revolutionise Physics?
Really sweets?reasonvemotion wrote:If you are grateful, as you claim to be, for having intelligence, what has it done for you. I have never met anyone so angry or disallusioned as you are.
Are you proposing?reasonvemotion wrote: How does a woman relate to you?
I know this might be difficult for you to accept, sweets, but this is the case with everyone...even with you.reasonvemotion wrote:It would be virtually impossible, as you have no interest in what a woman says, just what she can give you.
Competition is "unnatural"?reasonvemotion wrote: It is a continual battle of the wits and will for you, this is unnatural.
What a naive little girl you are.reasonvemotion wrote:"Aggression, in any case, is nowhere near universal.
Modern systems create artificial environments dear. Look at the resources dedicated to maintaining the peace and the quiet, giving you the impression that humans are not violent; look at what happens when this institutionalized system of law&order suddenly diminishes leaving a void....total chaos on the streets.reasonvemotion wrote: It is true that these are hunter-gatherer societies, but the fact that any humans live without violence would seem to refute the charge that we are born aggressive.
Oh my, sweets, you are a child.reasonvemotion wrote:
In fact, cultures that are “closer to nature” would be expected to be the most warlike if the proclivity for war were really part of that nature. Just the reverse seems to be true."