Being "GENDERFLUID" ?

[Melchior]

Just more 'junk terminology' from people with nothing better to do. Our sex is determined at conception. End of story.

really?

how would you label an XY individual whose body does not respond to testosterone and who have mostly female characteristics including female genitals (but no uterus)?

Such an individual may well be thought of as a girl from birth, and think of herself as a girl - and not be aware of any issues until puberty - and that will not change their sexual organs or their gender identity

I saw that episode of House too. What of it? That sort of phenomenon is simply a biological anomaly. It is obvious that he cannot function as a male, so I suppose the best thing would be to go on living as a female. But none of this has anything to do with being 'genderfluid', whatever that is supposed to mean.

[Kayla]

I saw that episode of House too. What of it? That sort of phenomenon is simply a biological anomaly. It is obvious that he cannot function as a male, so I suppose the best thing would be to go on living as a female. But none of this has anything to do with being 'genderfluid', whatever that is supposed to mean.

i was responding to the specific claim that matters of gender are invariably clear

[SpheresOfBalance]

"Toni Foxx, 27, is a freelance fashion designer with the tall, slim build of a natural clotheshorse. If that description leaves you wondering whether Foxx is a he or a she, that’s the way Foxx prefers it.

Foxx is “genderfluid” — one of several relatively new terms to describe people who consider themselves some combination of male and female. “I’m a way better person since I started identifying this way,” said Foxx, who recently moved from Minneapolis to California and is developing a genderfluid clothing line, Label Killer."
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/224602921.html

It is my understanding that at the chromosome level, a human being is either a male or a female. Male and female are identified and distinguished by the chromosome numbers. An individual cannot be both male and female at the same time and in the same respect. Acting or thinking otherwise violates the law of identity and is irrational. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_identity

People can do what ever they want with other people that want the same. In the end they shall die alone like all the rest, thus their life is only theirs to question. Why must some look in anothers playground, to justify theirs?
Well, fear of course!

[Melchior]

I saw that episode of House too. What of it? That sort of phenomenon is simply a biological anomaly. It is obvious that he cannot function as a male, so I suppose the best thing would be to go on living as a female. But none of this has anything to do with being 'genderfluid', whatever that is supposed to mean.

i was responding to the specific claim that matters of gender are invariably clear

What do you mean? 'Gender' is a linguistic term, ONLY. 'Gender' does NOT apply to living beings, only to words. Most nouns do not have 'natural' genders: die Taube is a dove. The word is 'feminine' but the feminineness of the word does not have anything to do with the sex of the bird, which is indeterminate. The word for 'sun' (die Sonne) in German is feminine; in Italian (il sole), it is masculine. Das Mädchen (girl, maiden) in German is neuter because of the suffix 'chen'. All nouns words ending in 'keit' or 'heit' in German are feminine, regardless of their meaning or reference. 'Natural' gender means the gender of the noun corresponds to the sex of the referenced entity.

[Kayla]

sie ist dumbkopff

hier, schprechen engels, bitte

[henry quirk]

So much to-do about nuhtin'.

The biological baseline...

If you got XY your flesh will have certain gross and subtle characteristics that distinguish you from XX, which entails a differing set of gross and subtle fleshy characteristics.

Since you 'are' the flesh, the status of 'it' determines the status of 'you'.

So: as XY, you'll tend to behave in certain ways, think in certain ways, and as XX, you'll tend to behave in certain ways, think in certain ways.

Language users take those gross and subtle fleshy qualities (coupled with the behaviors and thinking that often goes along with those gross and subtle qualities) and assign placeholders (he, she, male, female, masculine, feminine, etc.)...the placeholders (language itself) are an endeavor to describe the world and the things in the world...accuracy of description is paramount.

So: when Joe, feelin' girly, mutilates his body to appear female, pumps himself full of estrogen, dresses as a woman, and legally changes his name to Josephine, all he's done is 'mutilate his body to appear female, pump himself full of estrogen, dress as a woman, and legally change his name to Josephine'...he's not a woman...he's male.

As I say elsewhere: till micro-tech allows itsy-bitsy robots to go in and re-code his DNA, all the surgeries, injections, make overs, self-defining, and shifty cultural agendas will not, does not, trump Reality (Joe is male).

Now: I don't give two shits if Joe wants to play dress up and mutilate himself and call himself 'she', but I won't participate in his madness.

[thedoc]

Genderfluid? Is that some kind of lubricant?

[SpheresOfBalance]

Acting or thinking otherwise violates the law of identity and is irrational

Limited perspective of limited vision. One not seeing the forest for the trees; the life for the self. Fear that it is somehow threatened, in possibly becoming minority, obsolete. Not understanding evolution.

But in fact:

Simply the organism being true to itself with respect to the larger picture. A generation sensing the current human truth, adapting as evolution in action in real time. Immediate action through sensing; immediate compliance. Paying homage to the biosphere, thus sacrificing that which is imbalance.

To be admired as to it's self sacrificial nature, to not procreate, instead possibly adopt, thus saving another from being alone, poor, destitute. A family of misfits, (of some's ignorant perspective), coming together to love unconditionally, despite ones shortcomings, (of some's ignorant perspective), acceptance of completely opened arms, no strings attached, come as you are, with smiles upon all their faces!

Yes, Earth's and Mankind's Saviors, to be praised!