Do you know your own self-interest?

Should you think about your duty, or about the consequences of your actions? Or should you concentrate on becoming a good person?

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Lacewing wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Lacewing wrote: Do you think the same of yourself?
If you believe I'd leave myself out of the mix, you're nuts.
I have no idea what you're capable/incapable of. You appear to like to lecture people, while touting your own qualities, so I couldn't guess if you included yourself in your assessment of humans in general.
I like how you "conveniently" skipped over this quote, to serve your selfish purpose:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:I'm talking about "all of us," based on all the whacked out things we do.


I think humans are MANY things. "Dumb fucking animals" is only one possibility. :)
Do you understand the word relativity at all?

"Amazing beautiful souls" is another.
That's your prerogative, and I would support you in that endeavor. Some people believe in souls, ghosts, demons, gods, leprechauns, trolls, faeries, life after death, etc. And it's their right to do so, I support them.

Might you agree that we all have the capacity to be any and all of it?
I surely wouldn't call one an 'amazing beautiful soul' that wants to ostracize people so as to elevate self. You? ;-)

Perhaps any one of us could be a murderer or terrorist or empath or saint. Perhaps it just depends on what energy we're swirling in... and what we "latch onto".
I can see someone that routinely has to deal with ever varying hormone levels saying this, and of course I'd be very wary of such an individual that would allow those hormones to sway them to the degree you mention.

Kind of like a bunch of actors that come onto a stage... and we choose/create the roles that we play out.
I'm sure you understand that which you assert, to an extremely fine degree, after all, it's you that states that case, surely you 'know' it.
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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote: Then obviously your head is screwed on backwards! As it's Donald with no nuclear sense, he's a babbling, paranoid, peeking tom of a whiner, because his pussy hurts, kind of boy. The difference between you and I is that I spent 16 years working for the US DOD, and know considerably more about M.A.D., and the telling tale of the human condition, concerned with it's dealings, in the face of their ignorantly conceived reality; the utter insanity of becoming that which one fears, then shrinking in it's shadow, yet maintaining the status quo.

But of course I'll always continue to support your right to have an opinion, no matter how absurd. I mean have you actually watched all three debates, or have you not been taking your medicine?

Then again if I remember correctly, there's always the consummate pot stirrer.
;-)
DOD can't even program an interactive game without getting a 404 error. Not too confident in it's abilities to defend us from China as the F-23 plans were already leaked and stolen by China.

Not too confident in Hillary's ability to avert us from nuclear warfare as she is adamant and vitrolic against Putin. Anytime her emails are mentioned she accuses Putin and some grand Russian conspiracy against her. Putin has already made threats to us. And Hillary has already made threatening postures to him. As for paranoia Hillary is quite paranoid and delusional as is Trump.

Trump never threatened anyone with nuclear warfare, he only threatened to cut US budget spending overseas and stop protecting countries like Japan. Hillary did not miss the opportunity of course to twist his words to put things in his mouth that he never said.

It all boils down to Trump would be a garbage president but at least is cool with Putin, Hillary would be a garbage president but is not cool with Putin, so WW3 will happen with Hillary. Vote for Stein. Vote for Green Party.
You haven't been keeping up, it's been proven by US security experts that indeed Russia has been involved in, 'so called,' email leaks to wikileaks.

Knowledge is power my dear Trixie! You just don't have enough of it! Though I'm with you, I would vote another party if they had half a chance. Check the polls Trixie, unfortunately they don't stand a chance in hell.

Here's something for you to consider:
"...If I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know..." Or as Socrates said, 'I only know that I know nothing.'
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Lacewing wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
If you believe I'd leave myself out of the mix, you're nuts.
I have no idea what you're capable/incapable of. You appear to like to lecture people, while touting your own qualities, so I couldn't guess if you included yourself in your assessment of humans in general.
I like how you "conveniently" skipped over this quote, to serve your selfish purpose:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:I'm talking about "all of us," based on all the whacked out things we do.
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I didn't skip over anything for selfish purposes. Geez... you're such an annoying big delusional baby. I was simply responding to your comment "If you believe...". I'm allowed to do that, right? Your original post did not specify your position, so I was explaining why I didn't know at that time what to believe. If you would stop throwing so many projections at people, conversation with you could be more truthful and clear. In the meantime, it's just your usual wanker trip... and I have no interest in watching.
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Lacewing wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Lacewing wrote: I have no idea what you're capable/incapable of. You appear to like to lecture people, while touting your own qualities, so I couldn't guess if you included yourself in your assessment of humans in general.
I like how you "conveniently" skipped over this quote, to serve your selfish purpose:

I didn't skip over anything for selfish purposes. Geez... you're such an annoying big delusional baby.
Ditto!
I was simply responding to your comment "If you believe...". I'm allowed to do that, right? Your original post did not specify your position, so I was explaining why I didn't know at that time what to believe.
BS my response to your question as to whether I included myself was very, very clear. You skipped over the FIRST, CLEAREST part to serve your need to smack me around a bit, admit it. You're sore because I'm fairer with understanding people than you are. Stop whining and take your medicine! You'll eventually feel much better! ;-)

If you would stop throwing so many projections at people, conversation with you could be more truthful and clear. In the meantime, it's just your usual wanker trip... and I have no interest in watching.
Liar!! Why?? BECAUSE YOU KEEP ON DOING SO!!
Of course I really don't mind, like I said before, actually I love you. So you keep on being your obstinate self, I wouldn't have it any other way. If you start agreeing with me, I'll be worried, thinking you're on your death bed or something. ;-)
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Prager U: The Dark Art of Political Intimidation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXocwzYjcBc
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The KKK Is Working To Get Out The Vote — For Donald Trump, Of Course

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kkk ... e1b4b50849

The Ku Klux Klan makes it official, endorses Donald Trump saying 'Make America Great Again'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/1 ... reat-Again

Yep it's true, this new revelation speaks volumes about those that support Donald Trump for president. Let's step backwards on the evolutionary scale. Let us see more crosses burning on front lawns and human beings swinging from trees, it's been far too long!!

It's a sick world where people like the members of the KKK still exist, let alone where the leader of a very powerful country might tend to support such ignorant inbred people!

"Not all Donald Trump supporters are white supremacists, but all white supremacists appear to be Donald Trump supporters."

Does Donald Trump really 'know' his own self-interest? For that matter, does he really 'know' anything at all?
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Walker wrote:Prager U: The Dark Art of Political Intimidation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXocwzYjcBc
Relying on youtube authors for your info; last ditch effort? Surely not necessarily a source of credible information! What? "Anyone" for "any reason" can make a video and post it! Surely sounds like freedom, but not necessarily the voice of reason.

And then there's this issue:
Notice that I use the first and thus foremost definitions.

conservative [kuh n-sur-vuh-tiv]
adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

versus:

progressive [pruh-gres-iv]
adjective
1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.

And:

liberal [lib-er-uh l, lib-ruh l]
adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

Isn't it true that in fact we used to be much like cavemen and that we owe all our current knowledge to "CHANGE" so then why are some so fearful of it.

It's because history has shown us that many groups that once had power over the multitudes, fear change as with that change/progress/liberal ideas they loose their control over us. Their power to use us for their gain is diminished.

With change people are no longer as much slaves as they once were. Women can stand up and be counted, and no longer be treated as though they are property. EQUAL RIGHTS, true EQUALITY that's what CHANGE affords. Let's beat conservatives down into the annals of history where they belong by voting for change, progress and liberalism. Let us grow, and understand more, lets put even more distance between us and the dark ages!

Iron Maiden, anyone? In the future what shall we see as an Iron Maiden of these days?
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Your pov has become a schtick.

Here’s your definitions for Progressive in the political context.
http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/fir ... liberalism

“Frequently Asked Questions
Who were the Progressives? What did they believe?What were the intellectual origins of the Progressive Movement?How is the Progressive understanding of government different from that of the Founders?What is Liberalism and how is it different from Progressivism?What’s the difference between Progressivism and Socialism?What is the "New Deal"? How does it depart from the principles of the Founding?What is the "Great Society"? How does it depart from the principles of the Founding?What is the “Administrative State?” Is it constitutional?”

The definitions are valid not because they are assigned, not because of the messenger, or the source of the message. They’re valid because they accord with reality.

Keep in mind that Hillary Clinton is a self-proclaimed progressive, in the political context.
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Walker wrote:Your pov has become a schtick.

Here’s your definitions for Progressive in the political context.
http://www.heritage.org/initiatives/fir ... liberalism

“Frequently Asked Questions
Who were the Progressives? What did they believe?What were the intellectual origins of the Progressive Movement?How is the Progressive understanding of government different from that of the Founders?What is Liberalism and how is it different from Progressivism?What’s the difference between Progressivism and Socialism?What is the "New Deal"? How does it depart from the principles of the Founding?What is the "Great Society"? How does it depart from the principles of the Founding?What is the “Administrative State?” Is it constitutional?”

The definitions are valid not because they are assigned, not because of the messenger, or the source of the message. They’re valid because they accord with reality.

Keep in mind that Hillary Clinton is a self-proclaimed progressive, in the political context.
370 economists tell voters: Don't vote for Trump

America's economists on college campuses have no love for Donald Trump.

A letter signed by 370 economists, some whom have won the Nobel Prize in economics, urged voters not to vote for Trump.

"His statements reveal a deep ignorance of economics and an inability to listen to credible experts," the letter reads. The Wall Street Journal first reported on the letter, which was signed almost entirely by college professors.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/01/news/ec ... ote-trump/
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Video shows Trump with mob figure he denied knowing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 25964.html

A newly uncovered video appears to contradict Donald Trump’s claim that he never knew a high-stakes gambler who was banned from New Jersey casinos for alleged ties to organized crime.

The reputed mob figure, Robert LiButti, can be seen standing alongside Trump in the front row of a 1988 “WrestleMania” match in Atlantic City, N.J. LiButti wasn’t there by accident, according to his daughter, Edith Creamer, who also attended the event. “We were his guests,” she told Yahoo News in a text message this week.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Video shows Trump with mob figure he denied knowing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 25964.html

A newly uncovered video appears to contradict Donald Trump’s claim that he never knew a high-stakes gambler who was banned from New Jersey casinos for alleged ties to organized crime.

The reputed mob figure, Robert LiButti, can be seen standing alongside Trump in the front row of a 1988 “WrestleMania” match in Atlantic City, N.J. LiButti wasn’t there by accident, according to his daughter, Edith Creamer, who also attended the event. “We were his guests,” she told Yahoo News in a text message this week.

Here he is with at least one more HSG.
download/file.php?id=1329

:shock:

Found this:

Man walking along a road in the countryside comes across a shepherd and a huge flock of sheep. Tells the shepherd, "I will bet you $100 against one of your sheep that I can tell you the exact number in this flock." The shepherd thinks it over; it's a big flock so he takes the bet. "973," says the man. The shepherd is astonished, because that is exactly right. Says "OK, I'm a man of my word, take an animal." Man picks one up and begins to walk away.
"Wait," cries the shepherd, "Let me have a chance to get even. Double or nothing that I can guess your exact occupation." Man says sure. "You are an economist for a government think tank," says the shepherd. "Amazing!" responds the man, "You are exactly right! But tell me, how did you deduce that?"
"Well," says the shepherd, "put down my dog and I will tell you."

:lol:
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Walker wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:Video shows Trump with mob figure he denied knowing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 25964.html

A newly uncovered video appears to contradict Donald Trump’s claim that he never knew a high-stakes gambler who was banned from New Jersey casinos for alleged ties to organized crime.

The reputed mob figure, Robert LiButti, can be seen standing alongside Trump in the front row of a 1988 “WrestleMania” match in Atlantic City, N.J. LiButti wasn’t there by accident, according to his daughter, Edith Creamer, who also attended the event. “We were his guests,” she told Yahoo News in a text message this week.

Here he is with at least one more HSG.
download/file.php?id=1329

:shock:

Found this:

Man walking along a road in the countryside comes across a shepherd and a huge flock of sheep. Tells the shepherd, "I will bet you $100 against one of your sheep that I can tell you the exact number in this flock." The shepherd thinks it over; it's a big flock so he takes the bet. "973," says the man. The shepherd is astonished, because that is exactly right. Says "OK, I'm a man of my word, take an animal." Man picks one up and begins to walk away.
"Wait," cries the shepherd, "Let me have a chance to get even. Double or nothing that I can guess your exact occupation." Man says sure. "You are an economist for a government think tank," says the shepherd. "Amazing!" responds the man, "You are exactly right! But tell me, how did you deduce that?"
"Well," says the shepherd, "put down my dog and I will tell you."

:lol:
Go ahead and ignore the important part of my point. I highlighted it above for those not smart enough to understand, walker! Oh and you really don't have to use a funny little story as a metaphor for yourself, economist, oh sorry, I mean, Mr. walker, those of us that are actually intelligent already know you for what you are.

Trump's path to White House lined with false, misleading statements

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/06/politics/ ... index.html

"Donald Trump is straining to stay on message as he delivers his closing pitch to voters in the final days before the election.
But even as he hews closely to the script his aides have urged him to follow, the Republican nominee isn't abandoning the
lies, misrepresentations and hyperbole that he has turned to time and again to bolster the arguments driving his presidential campaign. And this time, many of them are built into the teleprompter."

This is a great one, as CNN cuts from Donald's lies to the actual event he's lying about. Hilarious!! What a fucking moron Donald is. Thank god, or should I say intelligent Americans, that he's still behind in the polls.

You want to know the main reason I'm so against the idiot? What sealed his chance as being a fucking moron, was when he stated that Global Warming was a hoax. That buffoon would seal our doom, just to cater to his rich friends that deal in oil/coal in some way. What an ignoramus he is. The facts surrounding mankind's history up to the minute, show without fail that global warming is real, that we are responsible to a major extent, and that we're doomed if we don't change our ways. It's a definite no brainier for all those that can do the simple math that's required, addition is all that's needed.

Donald Trump is a brain dead fuck!

And with respect to this thread, it's only obvious that his self interest is ONLY money. And he's not even good at making it, talk about being bankrupt. He wouldn't know the RIGHT thing to do if it bit him on his ass, ur, face, ur ass, ah forget it, with him they're the same thing anyway.
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Once the schtick is identified, the layers of bile lose some luxs of iridesence, but there’s still enough garbage on the landscape that one could adopt a section and send out the volunteers with bright red vests and big green litter bags to clean it up and uncover the general atmosphere of intelligence commonly associated with philosophy. Even though politely encouraged to make oneself at home, guests customarily remove boots covered with mud and everything else that hides the shine in most situations approaching election and pre-holiday festivities.

Here’s what’s important.

It’s not a matter of finding what’s wrong.
Wrong is obvious.
It’s a question of what’s right.

So far, Clinton’s platform is:
- She’s not Trump.
- She’s a woman.

That’s all she is shouting in other than dulcet tones, and that could be all that’s required to win this election and determine the fate of the universe.

The FBI investigation produced a long list of crimes including Clinton perjuries and obstruction of justice, yet Obama’s DOJ refuses to prosecute.
In fact regarding crime, the POTUS very recently encouraged illegals to vote, which would be a crime if they did.

Wikileaks e-mails reveal that Sanders took a dive. He agreed at the outset to not criticize Clinton in the campaign. No wonder he had such a long face. He saw his popularity surging and hit his forehead with his palm. He knew that if he went for it, team Clinton would apply their leverage. Ya sold out too early, Bernie. Ya coulda been a contender.
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Walker wrote:Once the schtick is identified, the layers of bile lose some luxs of iridesence, but there’s still enough garbage on the landscape that one could adopt a section and send out the volunteers with bright red vests and big green litter bags to clean it up and uncover the general atmosphere of intelligence commonly associated with philosophy. Even though politely encouraged to make oneself at home, guests customarily remove boots covered with mud and everything else that hides the shine in most situations approaching election and pre-holiday festivities.
Are you kidding me, what's a holiday or festivities? It's been far too long since they've visited me.


Here’s what’s important.

It’s not a matter of finding what’s wrong.
Wrong is obvious.
It’s a question of what’s right.
Incorrect, wrong is the the only thing worth illuminating, as it's the only thing that requires changing.
What is right needs no mention, as it requires no changing, instead live it up, have a blast!


So far, Clinton’s platform is:
- She’s not Trump.
- She’s a woman.

So far, Trump’s platform is:
- Water seeks it's own level, such that the ignorant attract the ignorant (who ever dreamed it'd be approximately 50%).
- He can say he has the answers when he doesn't even understand the questions. Blowhard comes to mind!
During presidential candidate debates, I've never heard someone speak so much and say so little. I was reminded of days when I had to bump my phonograph for it to continue!

I bet you any amount of money she has a higher IQ than Donald.


That’s all she is shouting in other than dulcet tones, and that could be all that’s required to win this election and determine the fate of the universe.
Not universe, rather the USA. Have visions of grandeur do you? You should see a doctor!

The FBI investigation produced a long list of crimes including Clinton perjuries and obstruction of justice, yet Obama’s DOJ refuses to prosecute.
Possibly because it was in fact a disinformation campaign?

In fact regarding crime, the POTUS very recently encouraged illegals to vote, which would be a crime if they did.
They are here, they are working, what happens in government affects them.


Wikileaks e-mails reveal that Sanders took a dive. He agreed at the outset to not criticize Clinton in the campaign. No wonder he had such a long face. He saw his popularity surging and hit his forehead with his palm. He knew that if he went for it, team Clinton would apply their leverage. Ya sold out too early, Bernie. Ya coulda been a contender.
Are you kidding me, as if wikileaks isn't suspect. Sheesh!
Actually I would have preferred Bernie. I told you, at this point I'm just trying to keep the less capable candidate from winning. I wish it was Bernie I voted for, but then I can't win them all.

What I really can't understand is why Donald made the GOP nomination. From the beginning he sounded like an ignorant fuck. I was shocked he made it. It just goes to show how approximately 50% of the people in America have below average IQ's.



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To be honest with you, for some time now I've believed the entire process is rigged. First the US wanted to make the statement, "see we even allow black men to be president." And now it's, "And white women too." It'll be complete when we have a black woman as president. Lets not stop there, we need a Hispanic Transvestite to know we're no longer bigots.

You know why I believe it's rigged. Because it always seems to be a close race, approximately 50% in both camps. I just can't believe that 50% of the US population are smart enough to vote for the democrats and 50% are dumb enough to vote for the republicans.

Did you realize this. Of the two sides, those states that vote repub (red), and those that vote demo (blue), of the top ten (10) universities in the US, 90% (9) are located in the blue states, while only 10% (1) is located in one (1) of the red states. And that one (1) state was a swing state. At least that's how it was during the last election. What does that say to you? To me it's clear! Also most of the red states are in the south, while all the blue states are in the north. Can I be any clearer?

Though as Rush sings:

Those who know what's best for us;
Must rise and save us from ourselves.

Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand;
Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk hand in hand.
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Could be people are rigged, via conditioning … and other reasons.

Fact is, and Progressives take note because this may be difficult to face in oneself, but Clinton’s popularity is empirical evidence that corruption is now cool. Or perhaps her popularity is an ironic commentary on the system and therefore, cool. Such would suit a fundamentally deconstruction mentality that prioritizes chaos as a benefit, and encourages emulation from those with displaced religious tendencies.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1116/colon110716.php3

And don’t worry about deportation. There are no crosschecks for citizenship at the voting booth. Of that you can be assured, from what is now the highest power in the land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQKAz7l5Es4
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