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 Post subject: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:36 am 
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Here is the Truth about society's policies on animals :

http://www.Truthmedia.8k.com/animalabuse.html


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
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Seer Travis Truman wrote:
Here is the Truth about society's policies on animals :

http://www.Truthmedia.8k.com/animalabuse.html



Animals: most taste pretty good!! Ummmmmmm!
Bacon pork chops loins veal steak joints mince eggs cheese milk flesh
Scrummy


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:11 pm 
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chaz wyman wrote:
Seer Travis Truman wrote:
Here is the Truth about society's policies on animals :

http://www.Truthmedia.8k.com/animalabuse.html



Animals: most taste pretty good!! Ummmmmmm!
Bacon pork chops loins veal steak joints mince eggs cheese milk flesh
Scrummy


You are a troll. One who did not read or understand the link, either, because I expressly advocate the eating of meats.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:43 pm 
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Seer Travis Truman wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
Seer Travis Truman wrote:
Here is the Truth about society's policies on animals :

http://www.Truthmedia.8k.com/animalabuse.html



Animals: most taste pretty good!! Ummmmmmm!
Bacon pork chops loins veal steak joints mince eggs cheese milk flesh
Scrummy


You are a troll. One who did not read or understand the link, either, because I expressly advocate the eating of meats.


so do I - what of it?


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:59 pm 
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Granted that most people don't know the specific details and conditions of factory farming, but nearly everyone knows it is far from "humane".

Unfortunately I don't see this going away though given the fact that humans are now living longer, and the worlds population is just going up and up and nature isn't designed to support this many of a species.

Socrates advocated a diet of breads, cheese, vegetables, figs for dessert and wine in moderation.

Also I can recommend a book on the subject called "the ethics of what we eat" by peter singer.

It talks about factory farming and the damages to the environment amongst other things.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:41 am 
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Chessmaster wrote:
Granted that most people don't know the specific details and conditions of factory farming, but nearly everyone knows it is far from "humane".


No, the conditions are humane, and that was explained carefully in My essay.

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Unfortunately I don't see this going away though given the fact that humans are now living longer, and the worlds population is just going up and up and nature isn't designed to support this many of a species.

Humans are a toxic plague.

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Socrates advocated a diet of breads, cheese, vegetables, figs for dessert and wine in moderation.

That diet is inferior. Socrates was a fool. There is an explanation of diets in the essay. Did you read it?

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Also I can recommend a book on the subject called "the ethics of what we eat" by peter singer.

I dont care what you recommend. All such vegan and vego books/philosophies/ideologies are insane and a form of self-harm.

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It talks about factory farming and the damages to the environment amongst other things.

My website contains all the basic concepts regarding society and animals.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:54 am 
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My website contains all the basic concepts regarding society and animals.


Now that we all know you have a website, any chance you could take a break from marketing, and just participate in the conversation like a regular user?


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:33 am 
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Seer Travis Truman wrote:
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That diet is inferior. Socrates was a fool. There is an explanation of diets in the essay. Did you read it? ...
Didn't actually see a diet list tho'?

The evidence, at least for western europeons, appears to be eat a lot of goose and duck cooked in their fat, drink red wine and black coffee, laugh whilst eating and always eat at regular times with family and friends.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:38 am 
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Speaking of evidence, my wife and I have been vegetarians for over 30 years, and we're still here.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:42 am 
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To be perfectly honest no I did not read your website.

As Typist said, I think most are looking for discussion and thoughts about certain topics on this forum, not to be directed to a web site regardless of whether you made it or not.

So you could start by telling me why you think the diet Socrates recommends is inferior? It provides all the nutrients necessary for long term survival, whilst removing the potential dangers of consuming factory farmed meat.

And when you state conditions are humane, just how many of these factory farms have you visited? Maybe you have a different definition of humane than the popular one most think of when that word is used.

Also why do you think all books on diets, philosophies and so on are insane and a form of self harm?

I guess that means all the animal exploitation and diet thoughts that you've carefully explained in your essay on your website are equally insane and a waste of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:51 am 
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Seer Travis Truman, perhaps you just aren't familiar with forum culture. Actually, you can promote your site with every post, if you do it right.

Go to the user control panel, and make a little ad for your site in your forum signature. Then, every time you post your signature will appear just below your post.

This is generally considered an acceptable form of advertising, especially if you contribute something useful to the forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
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Arising_uk wrote:
Seer Travis Truman wrote:
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That diet is inferior. Socrates was a fool. There is an explanation of diets in the essay. Did you read it? ...
Didn't actually see a diet list tho'?

The evidence, at least for western europeons, appears to be eat a lot of goose and duck cooked in their fat, drink red wine and black coffee, laugh whilst eating and always eat at regular times with family and friends.


This is incorrect.

I do mention about the eating of meats. Red wine, coffee and any allegiance to the family unit mythology are all inferior and self-hating toxic acts.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:40 am 
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Speaking of evidence, my wife and I have been vegetarians for over 30 years, and we're still here.


Yes, but you have allowed your utterly malevolent and lie-based society to reverse the onus of responsibility on you, to make you feel guilty for it's acts. You deprive yourself, and take it out on yourself.

Thats inferior.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:49 am 
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Chessmaster wrote:
To be perfectly honest no I did not read your website.

I am not surprised.

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As Typist said, I think most are looking for discussion and thoughts about certain topics on this forum, not to be directed to a web site regardless of whether you made it or not.

The website is being used as a reference and as an argument. Read it.

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So you could start by telling me why you think the diet Socrates recommends is inferior? It provides all the nutrients necessary for long term survival, whilst removing the potential dangers of consuming factory farmed meat.

1. It contained toxic chemical drugs.
2. It deprived him of proteins.
3. It was a limited diet.
4. He put the guilt and responsibility that society and humanity bears onto himself, thats a self-harming and lie-based position to take.


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And when you state conditions are humane, just how many of these factory farms have you visited? Maybe you have a different definition of humane than the popular one most think of when that word is used.

My website explains the Truth-based definition of humane treatment clearly at http://www.Truthmedia.8k.com


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Also why do you think all books on diets, philosophies and so on are insane and a form of self harm?

Why do you think I would say that? I never suggested that.

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I guess that means all the animal exploitation and diet thoughts that you've carefully explained in your essay on your website are equally insane and a waste of time.

Oh, look at the way you have to hide from Truth. You have not even read the thing, and you want to try and condemn it.


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 Post subject: Re: Animal Exploitation
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Seer Travis Truman wrote:
This is incorrect. ...
Not with respect to heart disease its not.
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I do mention about the eating of meats. ...
Not which ones?
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Red wine, coffee and any allegiance to the family unit mythology are all inferior and self-hating toxic acts.
Don't visit Gascony.


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