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there is an immense bee nest in the ground on part of a slope in my yard near the alley. its a section that is actually dirt with alot of holes in it. we've recently figured out this is where most of the bees are coming from. either thats where they live inside, or theres something in there they like.

if its a bees nest its a large one!!!!! trust me!! i should take a picture and post it, i will try to post the pic in this thread within the next 2 hours.

anyways, they are not that big a problem to me (but sometimes depending on yes). the main problem is my neighbor has complained about all the bees and blames me, because i have a plum tree in my yard (and they like the sweet plums) and a few apparently underground nests. there is more than one, there is another area on the other side of my house.

i think they are good for my garden, and overall in general, yet for whatever reason, i seem to be the only one on the block with this major bee land.

i am surmising that i live in the oldest house on my block, and probably one of the oldest in my town. and not much has been done throughout all this time to the landscape either, as opposed to everyone around me. it's at the top of a small hill, and my yard is the only yard with any real remnant left of that/this old hill.

while all the yards around me are green, mine flourishes with a field of wild flowers, white, blue etc., wild mushrooms, etc., there's even a chokecherry or blueberry tree across from my garage, it truly is beautiful. there is even an oooooooold dead tree in it. nothing left but dead dry wood, as if it has been struck by lightning, many times. but is still standing. (my neighbor wants me to get rid rid of that too).

anyways, i think that's one reason i have so many bees. i think i have one of the most untampered with city lots in town.

should i get rid of the bees with a spray like my neighbor wants? should i get rid of the dead tree before it falls on its own? should i change my lawn entirely and plant it with home depot bluegrass? (it does have some store bought grass mixed in with the natural too already but...

and the main thing again is the bees. i do not want to mess with them. but...?

thanks

here are some pics. one is of the area itself, which is filled with holes and bees, and one is upclose to some of the holes, i'll try to find one of the old tree too, i took one last summer, and i think it might still be on my computer (edit, my pics always say 2004 on them because i don't set the date on my camera:) (i just took them tho:)

here is the dead tree and a plant last summer by the dead tree (i cannot rotate the tree pic to a horizontal position, so its sideways (that's one of my neighbors houses you see behind it, after 3 + years all i know of her so far is that she's a quiet old lady

oh the bees the bees the bees

what's the difference between the bees and the worms? why am i not feeling the same compassion? i don't want any of them in my house, i don't like bugs. are bees better than worms? there not so buggy like? or at least just at this moment just with me, its bees.

thank god for the worm lovers?

do i spray the bees? do i call some environmental group or person and have them come here and investigate the situation? do i leave them the way they are?

wiill they end up being removed and taken safely to the forest? (what forest?)

will i miss them if their gone, the last little bee town on the last little hill by the last little house on the very edge of the last little alley?

if i stick my hand in their swarm will they bite me?

i guess i think i'd try that, just because.

but would i do that with any other bug.

no.

why?

i know why the worms aren't mad at me, because as far as they know thier safe. they still have thier old hill.

no actually, i guess that might have been wrong they don't.

i am not going to associate with worms. last summer moving soil around my tomato & onion plants i came upon a big white one, oh god, it pains me to even write this, they creep me out, in a major way.

sure i know thier value, i "want" them there (oh this creeps me out to write this), but still why am i so preferential to the bee?

this pains me to write this, oh believe me, freaks me out, but i would stick my hand in a swarm of bees, but no way in hell would you catch me near a worm. no way in hell.

thanks for sharing the video link...

What have you decided?

And how do you plan to deal with your neighbour?

If you decide to have the bees moved on, would your neighbour share in the costs since it’s your neighbour who wants them moved?

Don’t kill them if you can help it.

I have never seen more than one or two bees at a time. I find it difficult to imagine a whole swarm of them in my back garden.

Good luck.

so far i have decided not to spray, and maybe contact an environmentalist to help me with the problem. my neighbor was quite snide about it. i don't blame her, but she didn't have to be so snide, nor so quick to tell me to poison them, the ground, and myself in order to do so.

i'm going to politely let her know of my decision, and who knows what she'll say. but i'm not spraying them.

you have never seen more than 1 or 2 bees at a time? oh my, just the other day i was standing outside with a pop and at least 20 of them flew up to me and tried to follow me in the house. the bees like my land lot. one reason also might be the natural flowers that still bloom here? either way, i'm going to try and possibly remove them and have them brought to the forest. (not much forest left) my alley used to be lined with big beautiful pine trees too, and last summer they cut most of them down.

thanks

I'm afraid I would have to do something about them too. I wish you luck in moving them.

interestingly enough i was just standing outside of my backdoor (reminds me of a ccr song) watching them buzz around in the sunlight, (the baby bees, and some adult ones)

normally they try to get in, but a couple of them buzzed up around me, could be my imagination who knows, but they swung by, didn't try to go in, and its as if they were saying hello?

i'm not sure i'm going to move them

however a sharp philosopher might say, 'what if you let all of them run wild, what if you let it all run free?, what if a band of tigers were at your door?'

well i would say, right or wrong, i'd try to make friends with them, a sort of compromise, and if that didn't work, i'd probably yeild to my natural instinct and kill them.

but my natural instincts don't tell me to kill all of them, so i won't.