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Seleucus wrote:Funny you should say that because I am literally today to go check out a couple houses to move away from the loud mosque in this area. ...
No idea what a 'loud mosque' means? You mean it's banging out tunes all day or just very loud when it's calling you to go bang your head five times a day?
Hope it's not your children killed or maimed the next time a resentful Muslim decides to blow up a bunch of people. ...
Of course you don't but it's not a lot different from when we were living through Yank sponsored Irish terrorism to be honest.
It must be really addictive calling others "Nazi", so rewarding you're willing to risk having your kids being blown to shreds and losing their country so you can keep playing your narcissistic ego game. ...
You are a neo-nazi are you not and a Muslim one to boot?
I was thinking about about the difference between Vietnam or Korean and Indonesia or Malaysia. The difference is the vibrancy. There's a heaviness in Muslim countries. In Oriental countries you have a brothel on literally every corner. ...
How does your wife feel about this?
There's a spa in every other building, and there's love hotels everywhere. ...
You think the women do it for the love?
The city is awake all night with people having a drink. ...
Come to the UK.
In Muslim countries there's a mosque on every corner, the spas are closed for whole months at a time when there's any religious holiday, instead there is a mosque on every corner, the streets are silent at night, and there is a heavy attitude of wrongness and shaming. With these Orientals, they have a thing about number 4, and red, but it's not moral condemnation, it's just bad luck. That's something different that you only get in Middle-Eastern religions like Christianity and Islam. Political correctness is in this way very similar to Islam, "you're a nazi" is the Allah Akbar of the leftists with their dower moralizing and righteousness.
I agree, theists suck.
For me, I'd want to live in the spirit of a Western society as you'll find in these historically Buddhist countries, alive, free of moralizing and judgment and the weightiness of Islam and leftism.
Although if they were Buddhist they'd be living the Eight-fold path which I doubt means whores and booze. You sound like you want to live in a Liberal Democracy but you promote a neo-nazi agenda, how do you reconcile this?
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Arising_uk wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:45 am
Seleucus wrote:Funny you should say that because I am literally today to go check out a couple houses to move away from the loud mosque in this area. ...
No idea what a 'loud mosque' means? You mean it's banging out tunes all day or just very loud when it's calling you to go bang your head five times a day?
I guess you don't know what it means or you'd be a great deal more concerned about Islamization...

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/environm ... ys-1.42742
http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/f ... oud-mosque
https://www.dailysabah.com/religion/201 ... ud-mosques
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/92 ... s-at-4-am/
https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... sy/338585/
https://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-expat ... 51122.html
https://www.quora.com/What-can-I-do-abo ... imes-a-day
http://www.thehamtramckreview.com/resid ... -too-loud/
http://nation.com.pk/11-Jul-2015/asking ... e-a-murtid
http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/arab ... ue-prayers
Hope it's not your children killed or maimed the next time a resentful Muslim decides to blow up a bunch of people. ...
Of course you don't but it's not a lot different from when we were living through Yank sponsored Irish terrorism to be honest.
A: Don't drink that, arsenic is poisonous!

B: Strychnine is also poisonous! <glug glug glug>

A: What the -- ???
It must be really addictive calling others "Nazi", so rewarding you're willing to risk having your kids being blown to shreds and losing their country so you can keep playing your narcissistic ego game. ...
You are a neo-nazi are you not and a Muslim one to boot?
While I may have been on the line previously, I'm starting to suspect this guy is completely right,

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/745078923930378240

You're still fighting the Nazis almost a century after it was over. Wake up man!
I was thinking about about the difference between Vietnam or Korean and Indonesia or Malaysia. The difference is the vibrancy. There's a heaviness in Muslim countries. In Oriental countries you have a brothel on literally every corner. ...
How does your wife feel about this?
So you despise sex positivity too? You fit right in with your heavy dour moralizing Muslims.
There's a spa in every other building, and there's love hotels everywhere. ...
You think the women do it for the love?
Oh! I wouldn't have expected moralizing from you!

I suppose you want that adulterers be stoned to death.

Either way, do woman, and men, have adulterous trysts for love? Is that the motive?
In Muslim countries there's a mosque on every corner, the spas are closed for whole months at a time when there's any religious holiday, instead there is a mosque on every corner, the streets are silent at night, and there is a heavy attitude of wrongness and shaming. With these Orientals, they have a thing about number 4, and red, but it's not moral condemnation, it's just bad luck. That's something different that you only get in Middle-Eastern religions like Christianity and Islam. Political correctness is in this way very similar to Islam, "you're a nazi" is the Allah Akbar of the leftists with their dower moralizing and righteousness.
I agree, theists suck.
What sucks even more is when people no longer believe in their heavy judgmental Abrahamic god anymore but continue with their dour moralizing...
you promote a neo-nazi agenda, how do you reconcile this?
You're like a senile grandpa. Snap out out it! The war against the Nazis is past, long past... snap out of it... There's no Nazis here Grandpa, you're just dreaming and seeing things...
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Seleucus wrote:I guess you don't know what it means or you'd be a great deal more concerned about Islamization...
I'm confused, you say you are a Muslim so surely you are going to pray when these things are blaring out their call?

Have you been fibbing about being a Muslim, if so what other porkies have you been telling.
A: Don't drink that, arsenic is poisonous!

B: Strychnine is also poisonous! <glug glug glug>

A: What the -- ???
We'll deal with these terrorists the same way we did with the Yank sponsored ones, treat them as the common criminals they are.
While I may have been on the line previously, I'm starting to suspect this guy is completely right,

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/745078923930378240

You're still fighting the Nazis almost a century after it was over. Wake up man!
Eyes wide open matey as its only been a few decades in my country since you lot last crawled out from under your rocks.
So you despise sex positivity too? You fit right in with your heavy dour moralizing Muslims. ...
'Sex positivity'? What's that when its at home? I'm all for legalising prostitution but only when there is an extremely heavy crack-down on pimping and the prostitute can feel safe to report it and know that they will be protected as a citizens right.
Oh! I wouldn't have expected moralizing from you!
My apologies as I thought 'love hotel' a euphemism for brothel. So no I'm not against hotels that rent rooms by the hour.
I suppose you want that adulterers be stoned to death. ...
Nope, that's you and your religion is it not?
Either way, do woman, and men, have adulterous trysts for love? Is that the motive?
No idea, what they do is up to them just as long as no-one is being coerced or pimped. Personally I think they should keep their vows or leave but there you go.
What sucks even more is when people no longer believe in their heavy judgmental Abrahamic god anymore but continue with their dour moralizing...
That's the godbotherers for you.
You're like a senile grandpa. Snap out out it! The war against the Nazis is past, long past... snap out of it... There's no Nazis here Grandpa, you're just dreaming and seeing things...
Nah! Mate. The Nazi may have been beaten but such fascism is always lurking and you neo-nazis are just the latest incarnation trying to dress yourselves up in new clothes but you still sound and smell just like you did a few decades ago.
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Arising_uk wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:33 am
artisticsolution wrote:I can understand your problem with capitalism...but what is wrong with trying to pursue happiness ?
I have no problem with Capitalism other than it can't keep what it promises but 'individual happiness' as the mantra is an issue in a society I think as what might make an individual happy could be very detrimental to others.
Well, what might make an individual unhappy could be detrimental to others, as well.

Its not the pursuing happiness that is the problem. I think its the fairness of a society, for rewarding wealth and punishing poverty that is to blame.
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Arising_uk wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:58 pmNah! Mate. The Nazi may have been beaten but such fascism is always lurking and you neo-nazis are just the latest incarnation trying to dress yourselves up in new clothes but you still sound and smell just like you did a few decades ago.
The guy who wants open brothels and is anti-violence, and against Sharia Law, is, somehow, according to you, a fascist nazi muslim? Have you been taking your meds mate?

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GreatandWiseTrixie wrote:... a fascist nazi muslim? Have you been taking your meds mate?
Oh! You think he was lying about being a Muslim?

You think him linking to Stormfront, Breitbart and a whole host of extreme far-right wing 'intellectuals' a cunning plan and he's an undercover lefty?
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Arising_uk wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:58 pm
I'm confused, you say you are a Muslim so surely you are going to pray when these things are blaring out their call?

Have you been fibbing about being a Muslim, if so what other porkies have you been telling.
As I've already told you at least three times now Grandpa, Islam has laws against apostasy, and miscegenation laws preventing Muslims marrying non-Muslims. Therefore, either my wife and I leave her country possibly never to return and wed somewhere like Australia where it would have been legal, or I converted on paper to avoid making my wife a dissident in her home country. I have Islam on an ID card, that does not mean I "am" a Muslim.
Eyes wide open matey as its only been a few decades in my country since you lot last crawled out from under your rocks.
Not wanting your country invaded by hostile aliens till you've lost political control and become the minority yourself is not what it means to be a Nazi. It's sanity. You agree with me.

Eatwell is considered a major authority on what fascism is, why not have a look at his work on fascism and then show me how the ideas and sentiments I am expressing coincide with fascism, otherwise stop with your pejorative cyber bullying and verbal abusiveness,

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ic_Fascism
fascism is always lurking
About as much as it makes sense to say that Jacobites are always lurking or Levellers are always lurking.
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artisticsolution wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:52 pmWell, what might make an individual unhappy could be detrimental to others, as well.

Its not the pursuing happiness that is the problem. I think its the fairness of a society, for rewarding wealth and punishing poverty that is to blame.
That could fit perfectly into the mouth of any of the characters representing moochers in the Atlas Shrugged trilogy. Just been watching that the past few evenings.
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"""For me, I'd want to live in the spirit of a Western society as you'll find in these historically Buddhist countries, alive, free of moralizing and judgment and the weightiness of Islam and leftism."""

I got lost in the quota (quoting) system, so whoever said the above, please consider the parallel between what you said and the following. Meaning, if you want to stop moralizing, you ought not to depend on moralizing to stop moralizing.

"Let's fight for peace." Let's achieve peace by destroying peace.

"Mine is the only true god." Everyone says that. Whom should an outsider believe, which of the many different yet sincere and serious claimants, and why exactly you?

"All political prisoners who are tortured must be freed." (A la Amnesty International.) The result of that would be a whole bunch of other people being put in jail and tortured (the opposition of those who are currently in jail and tortured.)

"We must live in a free society." In total freedom of one, others' freedom is encroached. There is no such thing as a completely free society.

"Ninive is so rich, that everyone uses a human-driven rickshaw to get around." This excludes the rickshaw drivers from working, so nobody gets around.
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That's always been the problem with these kind of "discussions" which attempt to affirm the history and the peoples who created the culture being that what fundamentally creates the ID of a nation in its Western ecumenical setting.

Whenever one wishes to defend it against an influx of those who have very different cultures to the point of being diametrically opposed one is invariably labeled a Nazi. Since most people are bloody idiots in their open door policy thinking it a form of modern western enlightenment, the first guaranteed pejorative to be applied against those who strive to consider consequences without the usual hypocritical holier-than-thou PC intrusions is the default Nazi label.

What is universally credited as the greatest evil of the 20th century is customarily debited to the account of anyone who objects to the currently avowed "Western Weltanschauung" of the period making it the favored form of debasement by those who so easily surrender to the educated idiot mode of thought.
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Dubious, the same applies in reverse, with the name called "liberal".

In America, "liberal" is the leftist equivalent of the right-wing derogatory term, "nazi" or "Nazi". "Nazi" has a bit meaner taste to it, than "Liberal". Liberal is more like soft, yellow shit, that is luke-warm, has a bleeding heart, and is too soft on his kids and on his enemies. Whereas "Nazi" is tougher, a survivalist-type of connotation, aside from meaning a racial bias in political issues.

From my point of view, there has been some talk of all human genomes so thoroughly mixed, that it does not matter whether my progeny survives on the expense of others', or the other way around, the end result is a virtually unchanged gene pool of humanity.

Therefore insisting that my kids survive, or my family, or my nation, or my race, is indeed meaningless when you think of life's meaning being the chance to propagate one's own DNA to as many future generations as possible.
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Seleucus wrote:... As I've already told you at least three times now Grandpa, Islam has laws against apostasy, and miscegenation laws preventing Muslims marrying non-Muslims. Therefore, either my wife and I leave her country possibly never to return and wed somewhere like Australia where it would have been legal, or I converted on paper to avoid making my wife a dissident in her home country. I have Islam on an ID card, that does not mean I "am" a Muslim. ...
'On paper', does that not mean you went before an Iman and swore that you recognised only one 'God' and that one being 'Allah' and that you recognise Muhammad as being 'its' prophet?

Your 'on paper' appears to point to Indonesia being a secular Islamic state, I thought you'd have said this is not possible under Islam?

I am interested in this tho' as apparently you won't be leaving Indonesia, so where is your country?

If you do leave do you think it a good idea to be promoting an ideology that, if attained, will be antagonistic towards your wife or is she a paper Muslim a well?

If she isn't then how will you feel about raising your kids as Muslims?
Not wanting your country invaded by hostile aliens till you've lost political control and become the minority yourself is not what it means to be a Nazi. It's sanity. You agree with me.
When these invasions happen I'll be on the defenses with you but if you mean immigration of those escaping from their societies and cultures then we differ in how to deal with such stuff. I also agree that it doesn't make you a neo-nazi, what does is the promotion of a white nationalist( or pan-national if you like) racialist agenda. Of course you could tell me how this could be implemented in a peaceful non-violent manner and I'd reconsider you.
Eatwell is considered a major authority on what fascism is, why not have a look at his work on fascism and then show me how the ideas and sentiments I am expressing coincide with fascism, otherwise stop with your pejorative cyber bullying and verbal abusiveness, ...
Bit like 'have you stopped beating your wife' I think as his paper says that 'fascism' is a difficult ideology to define, so my apologies as I didn't realise it was so incoherent. Tell you what, you tell me where you place yourself on his analysis?

"pejorative cyber bullying" :lol: Does this make you a snowflake?
About as much as it makes sense to say that Jacobites are always lurking or Levellers are always lurking.
:lol: Political ideas and ideologies are always lurking, I'd have thought that a millennial like yourself would be a meme-lover.
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artisticsolution wrote:Well, what might make an individual unhappy could be detrimental to others, as well. ...
It could but it's not happiness I'm concerned with it's the 'individual' bit that can raise problems if you want a cohesive society as at times there may have to be unhappiness.
Its not the pursuing happiness that is the problem. I think its the fairness of a society, for rewarding wealth and punishing poverty that is to blame.
Are people actually punishing poverty? I'd have thought that was the punishment in a society that pursues the almighty dollar.
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-1- wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:34 am """For me, I'd want to live in the spirit of a Western society as you'll find in these historically Buddhist countries, alive, free of moralizing and judgment and the weightiness of Islam and leftism."""

I got lost in the quota (quoting) system, so whoever said the above, please consider the parallel between what you said and the following. Meaning, if you want to stop moralizing, you ought not to depend on moralizing to stop moralizing.

"Let's fight for peace." Let's achieve peace by destroying peace.
I expect there is a great deal of slave think I need to purify out of my thinking yet...
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Dubious wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:33 amWhat is universally credited as the greatest evil of the 20th century is customarily debited to the account of anyone who objects to the currently avowed "Western Weltanschauung" of the period making it the favored form of debasement by those who so easily surrender to the educated idiot mode of thought.
Since Muslims committed four genocides the last hundred years: Greek, Armenian, Indonesian and ISIS, and the Nazis only one, it's pretty obvious those politically correct types don't actually care about humanity.
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